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Who has more power, Hogan or Cena?

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Who had more power, Hogan or Cena?

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#1 ·
I was not really around in the Hogan era, but I'm smart enough to understand how popular he was and how he took WWF to heights it had never been before. At the peak of his years Vince would of done anything to keep hold off him.

As for Cena, well he is the big money machine weather you like him or not. They are so desperate to keep him active that he even appears on TV and too promote PPV when he is injured.

Cena really has Vince and the WWE by the balls if he wants. They can not afford to lose him and he could demand any kind of contract he wanted, all he would really have to do is threaten to leave...

In their respectful era's both had the popularity and power to get what they wanted when they wanted. They could turn big scary Vince into a scared little boy if they pleased...

But out of the two...which one has the most power?

I go for personally vote Cena. In those days many people thought wrestling was real and would go to watch grown men "fight". There was also a very well pushed roaster behind Hogan too so the attraction was there...Cena on the other hand has had a show pretty much built round him and him alone...everyone else has been made a prop to say the least...
 
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#32 ·
Hogan had more power to ridiculously higher levels and I don't know how people are saying Cena. Outside of getting Alex Riley buried for a petty squabble, Cena hasn't shown much political power at all. He can't even get Vince to change the design of the WWE Championship.
 
#36 ·
I think Hogan could get away with more than Cena could as far as he is concerned, I think if Hogan wanted something pertaining too him it was his, but I think Cena has more "pull" as far as being in McMahon's year. Cena, for better or worse, is the reason for the PG Era, and I'm not saying that, Cena has said in interviews that he suggested it, because he felt the product was stale at the time. Now, what I this is misinterpreted is the word "stale", creatively, I think '07+ '08 was a good year,and it's when I started watching again, but it's really when Undertaker, Batista, Edge, and Cena were at it's peak and HBK had a great deal going on as far as quality wise, but other than that the rest of the show was still kind of average, but more importantly, the Benoit and steroid scandals occurred. So it was a lot of damage control, so take than into account before bashing Cena. Overall, business wise, I think it was a good decision for someone not involved on the business end.

But I don't think either had Vince by the balls like HBK did and that's probably only because of timing. Now, WWE is the number one and only one, TNA fans have no arguement because Bound For Glory hardly pulls the attendance a B PPV does, so I'm saying one and only. Hogan and Hulkamania put WWE in a great position and they while NWA/WCW was competition it wasn't yet a threat.

HBK, had something going for him where he had some real pull, WWE was on a rebuild and his "clique" was looked at as being a group of future breakout stars, and in reality it was, 3/5 became WWE Champion, but more importantly the were the nWo and DX respectively, albeit I'm sure Vince rather that Scott and Kevin had that nWo success in his company. You take Bret out the picture and you're only looking at Undertaker, before they knew what Austin would become. So they not only was able to lobby there one pushes, but famously stop others. Bam Bam Bigelow said he left because while his push wasn't effected he knew it would be.

CM Punk right now has a bit of pull now too, you might not realize it based on his booking of main events until now, but just take a look at who was champions after TLC, Beth, who he dated, Ryder, who he supported, Bourne and Bryan who he was friends with from the indies. Now take a look at who's been signed Chris Hero, Antonio Cesaro, Seth Rollins... CM Punk has hinted to having something to do with that. I would be suprised if Colt Cabana signed soon.
 
#50 ·
Hulk Hogan, for sure. He was truly the draw, to the extent that other wrestlers thanked him for putting food on their families' tables, to the extent that the company would have been doing significantly less damage or arguably even have folded outright without him. Now, the WWE is a machine. In 2012 Cena is obviously their most valuable asset and they would stumble significantly, but not enough to stop altogether. Hence Hogan being the answer here.

Kind of has nothing to do with the question but okay.
 
#45 ·
Hogan. Cena is not even in the picture. The following things worked in Hogan's favor:

  1. Hogan was almost unanimous GOD when he had that run and that is why the same storyline of building up a heel, monster or otherwise and sending him to lose to Hogan worked for so long. Vince cannot afford to cross him at that time for he meant actual kickstart and establishment of business, not just continuance. Now, he can get Cena to come in and say Ryback will take care of Punk. He could not even imagine that in the mid 80s. It happened much later with Warrior and it screwed up big time and they had to bring back Hogan.
  2. Hogan had creative control atleast according to stories wherever he went. He can say no. Cena does not look like he can do it to Vince.
  3. Hogan had other promotions to go to and like NWA/AWA/JCP/WCW and he would have taken the crowd with him in his peak leaving a merely competing and not yet dominant WWF high and dry if he had chosen to. Vince would have had no choice but to concede to his wishes.
  4. Hogan and Vince together brought out the revolution in pro-wrestling with Hogan being the actor and Vince with his team being the brain behind. Both had to be there to work. Hogan atleast had the direction once it started and he could have taken the Hulkmania around wherever he went. But Vince did not have that choice for at that time he had everything invested in Hogan and wrestling kayfabe was in doubt and not completely broken.
  5. There was no internet, backstage news and so much source of information then like now about what happens behind the scenes. So the fans get to know and believe what they see. That being one of the reasons the original screwjob not getting as much attention as montreal screwjob even though it was for women's world title when it meant something. So, now if Cena goes out, most of us would know why he went out and Vince to an extent control the damage through his PR machinery. Then, had Hogan gone to AWA/NWA in 1986 and done a damaging promo on WWF where he was the top star, it would have caused serious damage.
 
#46 ·
cena duh
 
#49 ·
They both have power, but they both knew vince was in charge. If you want to know the truth, i think at his peak HBK had more than either of them, as far as pull with vince. And got away with more bullshit.


But nobody had as much power as hogan in WCW. he had creative control in his contract, and was the only guy ever who did. I also think Andre the giant pretty much had free reign to do whatever the hell he wanted.
 
#54 ·
Who the hell is saying Cena? It's Hogan without question and like others have said, Hogan had a lot more leverage and he meant a lot more than Cena ever will. You take away Hogan back in the 80s for the WWF and you take away the company. You take away Cena now and you might stumble and maybe even lose a good deal of money but the company remains.
 
#55 ·
Backstage-wise - John Cena. The company evolves around him. If Cena was to leave right now ratings would fall dangerously low. Its so bad to the point where if he was to get a serious injury WWE would have to keep him on TV or keep showing footage of him in order to keep people watching. Cena is also a better face for the brand than Hogan ever was. With all the make a wishes he has granted along with his work ethic, I believe WWE will go as far as Cena help take it at the moment.

Physically - Hulk Hogan. Homeboy was on Steriods and Juvi Juice.
 
#59 ·
Honestly I think its Hogan by a landslide. Most of the Hogan hate seems to stem from his 30yrs of backstage politics, getting his buddies jobs, changing or backing out of planned storylines etc. I cant recall Cena bashers mentioning this about him, its usually how "limited his move set is" or something like that.
 
#60 ·
The same ultimately. They never drop the title other than to 'company guys'. Cena loses to guys that Vince is grooming. The one guy I think of is RVD and even then - it wasn't a truly clean finish and RVD fucked that whole thing up by being friends with SABU lmao. But RVD was currently getting groomed to be the top guy for WWECW which probably would have done a little better for a little longer with him at the helm. And who knows what the plans were for AFTER WWECW. Other than that, I also can't think of anyone Hogan put over that wasn't a 'company guy'. That's absolute power because you protect your character while at the same time, when you do lose; you're putting over say an Orton or Sheamus who are going to go on and have sturdy reigns and eventually losing to them seems like a 'good loss'.

It's really a tough question to answer in that sense.

Now I say, well we haven't seen the rest of Cena. Hogan is pretty much done. As a wrassler. Cena could do a Hollywood type turn where he lets his ego take control. And once he turns, him showing his ego will not be frowned upon because the Cena haters will turn in to Cena lovers because he'll be such a jackass and different than his gummy bear persona of now.

I say revisit question in 5 or 10 years. For now today the toss up goes to Hogan imo.
 
#62 ·
Seriously, how is anybody saying Cena?

How many guys have publicly came out and said Cena demanded this or demanded that?


But, how many stories have we heard about Hogan refusing to job, bringing back Ultimate Warrior to get his win back, not agreeing to a rematch with HBK like the plan was, somehow working his way back into the title picture in 1993, throwing Jesse Ventura under the bus?

These old school guys aren't all disgruntled, there is plenty truth to all the fucked up shit Hogan has done to remain on top. Cena is nothing more than a victim of circumstance. He means so much to WWE and Vince doesn't have faith in anybody else, which is why Cena never gets time off. Everytime Hogan was around, he had to have the spotlight, eventhough he was surrounded by plenty of talent that was perfectly capable of carrying the ball. How else do you explain him holding the title for 4 years or holding it in 3 different decades?
 
#63 ·
Even in TNA, Hogan has power.

When he first got his gig, he was fucking hiring all his old friends, and not giving younger talent a chance.


He can get someone to stick a finger up his ass while sucking his dick if he wants.
 
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