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post #11 of 32 (permalink) Old 10-20-2012, 08:44 AM
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Re: Gotta give some props to WWE for this

Do people not watch Smackdown? Sheamus VS Barret should not be at Wrestlemania.

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I can remember reading that Bryan was meant to win the title but HHH wanted the champions to have longer runs. I can't say the first part is true or not, but I like how the champs are keeping the belts.

I would like to see Punk hold the title for a few more months as I don't see it benefitting anyone else at this point than an unrespected heel. Cena doesn't need it, Ryback doesn't deserve it just yet, Kane & D Bryan are busy. I would like to see Punk hold it until about Summerslam next year if that's possible.
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Re: Gotta give some props to WWE for this

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You have a point.

Hopefully Sheamus loses that shit before Wrestlemania 29 though.
Why not at Wrestlemania? Besides if he loses now, he will regain it back at mania. Are you up for another long Sheamus reign?
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Yeah I get your point although it still doesn't change that Sheamus is a horrible champion.

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Re: Gotta give some props to WWE for this

It's been a nice run but the last 4 months have been a bore so his long title reign is a dud imo.

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Yeah, I get your point. It makes it bigger and more exciting when it changes hands. The Fatal Four Way and his second match against Bryan were both really good.
Yet everything in between is boring and forgettable since it had pretty much no meaning. It's never very memorable when the champ retains.

I don't like the trade off. One possibly big moment (or potentially an annoyed, "about fuckin time" moment instead, like with Diesel), in exchange for 4 solid and potentially big moments too? Doesn't seem worth it to me.

For reference, during the "peak" years of wrestling, 97-02, the title never changed hands less than 4 times in a year. Usually it was 5 or more, only one year actually had just 4 title changes (98).

During the (according to some), lower years in WWF history, 93-96, the title never changed hands more than 3 times in a year. Half that time being just once or twice in the year.

Prior to that (other than 91-92 where 4 title changes happened), the title never changed hands more than twice in a year.


So taking all that into consideration, I'm not seeing what's so special about having long reigns. There weren't super long reigns during the best 7 years of wrestling. Yet there were long reigns during all of the most boring years of it.

Could be just a correlation without causation, but I don't think it's just a coincidence seeing as how WWE's been pretty boring this year too outside of right around Wrestlemania.

4-6 title changes a year seems to be the golden number. So long as it's not just always flipping between the same two guys obviously. 3rd or 4th parties need to be involved.


The more a guy retains, the less interesting it becomes imo. The "payoff" at the end might POSSIBLY be decent, or it could just be one of those "about fuckin time" moments. And regardless of how it turns out, the half a dozen PPVs prior to it were all shitty disappointments because nothing happened in them yet again.

And yes, I did hate the long title reigns of Diesel and Bret Hart when I was a kid. Completely did not give a fuck about the world title until HBK chased after it after winning the rumble (best rumble ever too imo).
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Re: Gotta give some props to WWE for this

somebody doesn't get it.

Edge's first wwe title reign, all two weeks of it, meant more than Sheamus's current reign.



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somebody doesn't get it.

Edge's first wwe title reign, all two weeks of it, meant more than Sheamus's current reign.
True but at least they are giving reigns more time. Hot potatoes are necessary sometimes, because otherwise it gets too predictable, but they need longer reigns more often, specially for new main eventers, it helps establish them and also make it a big moment when the next person wins it.

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Re: Gotta give some props to WWE for this

Nice idea, poor execution, just like everything WWE does. In Sheamus's case the World title doesn't mean 'that much' and the 'Summer' Angle should have been Punk vs Sheamus for a unification, it would have brought more spotlight on Sheamus and Punk being both in a 'big match' environment and could have been played up nicely in Punk's turn.

Punk's 'reign' has been very good also in numbers and the 'WWE title' is the big prize but the lack of 'main event' focus made the first half of the reign feel like background music, they've done a better job since his heel turn but this also co-insides with Cena's involvement.

Cody Rhodes had a great IC title reign, everything about it was brilliant and then?...NO PAY OFF. typical, how about Cody held that title all the way till he met the Monster that is Ryback at Survivor Series 2012? Cody would have cemented himself as having one of the greatest IC title reigns along with a big pay off at the end with Ryback being the one to end his reign.

So yeah, they've started putting belts on guy's longer but you need more than that for it to work.


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Re: Gotta give some props to WWE for this

I agree. Long title reigns are the best. It makes a title change more meaningful.

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Re: Gotta give some props to WWE for this

I see where you're coming from with this, you do have a point here. Longer reigns blow hot-potato reigns right out of the water, it makes the title change (and reign) actually have a meaning to it.

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