Statements like "I watch wrestling for the entertainment, not the wrestling" and "It's not a wrestling show, it's an entertainment show" are some of the absolute dumbest and moronic things I have ever read. And this is the fucking Internet.
Wrestling = a form of entertainment. (yes, it's true!)
You'd be saving your ass a lot more if you said something like "It's not a wrestling show, it's a show ABOUT wrestling" or "I watch wrestling for the storylines and feuds, not necessarily the matches themselves". But stupidity reigns supreme.
Big Show is one of the worst faces of all time, but as a heel, he plays a great boastful coward and Sheamus' feud with him is a lot better than Sheamus' feud with ADR, even though ADR is ten times more talented than Show in every way. Guess it proves that booking is everything.
Oh, and wrestling is no different than any other form of acting and shouldn't be treated differently by the fans, critics, media or those in the wrestling business themselves. The entire industry would be greatly benefited if wrestling schools taught Stanislavski alongside suplexes. And on the other hand, wrestling's involvement in cheap E! red carpet bullshit makes it look super bush league. If you're good at what you do, they'll come crawling to you, not the other way around.
Ryback was doomed from the start, in a lot of ways, he's a better worker than Goldberg, but his goofy name and stupid outfit and taunt just killed his chances. Goldberg, as awful as he was, succeeded because he had a real badass aura around him, he wasn't Hulk Hogan or Randy Savage, he was some big fucking scary jew with no first name and black trunks, not a goddamn walking action figure.
- The Sweet Chin Music issn't a good finisher for HBK.
- Macho Man Randy Savage had horrible promos.
- Trish Stratus is the most overrated diva in history.
- Owen Hart was just a midcard talent.
- Daniel Bryan is annoying in a Zach Ryder way.
CM Punk is over rated and everyone on here seems to be in love with him. To quote Vince Mcmahon "Im not a CM PUNK kinda guy" I was far more comfortable seeing him as "im straight edge and im better than you" rather than "best in the world" because he can't hold jerichos jockstrap. Punk is great on the mic but his wrestling in wwe literally makes me Go To Sleep. Jericho is a better face and a better heel, better on the mic and a better wrestler. has a better look. I think CM PUNK deserves the title now but its taken a year to grow on me and the only reason i wanted him to win is because Cena was killing wrestling. Oh and cm punk as face is total crap and had to go. Have watched Punk since ROH and STILL think he has a long way to go.
As long as its not stale face cena im good..am glad they've got cena to the side and the title off him because when he inevitably whens it back i might wait an extra 5 minutes before i turn the channel instead of immediately.CENA needs to turn heel but who knows, all the children may drown in their tears. Hogan did it and it worked, Cena hasnt done it and it hasnt worked.
RAVEN should have never had to drop the US title after one night to goldberg, and Raven should have feuded with page for the world title
All the HHH haters need to realize HHH won the game of wrestling and will run the game of wrestling, good idea or not, not sure but he truly is the game now.
Big Show is a better wrestler than most give him credit for. He can play a character to a tee and has great acting skills. He's no Mark Henry but his current World title run is good stuff.
Cena vs Laurinaitis from Over The Limit was a fun little match. It shouldn't of went on after the WWE title match but I thought it would of made a great Raw main event. Sometimes there is nothing more fun than seeing a face just terriorize a heel in a comedic way.
Shawn Michaels' god-awful acting ability stops him from being an all-time great wrestler. That and the lame comebacks.
The Attitude Era was mostly trash and I can't really recall many great matches from 98-99. I'm sure it would of been fun to watch one or two Raws from 1998, but I bet it would of got old quick.
Bobby Roode is know as the 'It Factor' but that is very far from the truth. Guy is as dull as shit and a charismaless drone.
Stone Cold and The Rock are both very good workers (despite Rocky's embarrassingly shit Sharpshooter).
Chris Jericho's 2008 heel run was better than anything he's done before or since.
Scott Hall would've been better than Triple H if he didn't let his demons fuck his career up.
Kevin Nash is more boring than most of these small guys he hates.
Booker T and DDP both have legitimate top 10 claims, taking their WCW runs into account.
Undertaker's act has worn thin over the years, and the streak should've been broken by an up-and-comer years ago. Now it'd be dumb for a new guy to end it, after the matches with HHH and HBK.
Orton is one of the best workers in the WWE today, and has pretty solid charisma/mic skills. He's just a bad face.
Jake Roberts is the greatest mic worker of all time.
Wade Barrett's ring skills are fine. He just keeps getting saddled with stupid movesets.
And finally, the least popular:
Tensai is a good wrestler. His run flopped due to A. getting stuck with a horrible moveset, B. very, very poor handling of his character, it's like they thought up 1/3rd of his gimmick and then stopped, and C. no mic time whatsoever. It didn't help that they ignored the "Albert" chants and hoped they'd stop on their own. Not that I think he deserves a giant push or a world title, but his matches in Japan were fine.
Triple H is a Top5 GOAT, the fact that he's filling the boss's daughter up with his love juice should not be used by people as a stick to beat him with.
Shawn Michaels is the greatest in-ring performer in the history of the business, especially after his comeback.
Chris Jericho was funnier on the mic than The Rock, barely.
- I firmly believe that The Rock was the John Cena of the Attitude Era: I look at the Cena Hate Threads circa 2005-2007 and things said about Cena were completely identical to the things that were said about The Rock circa 1999-2001. When I think about The Rock and John Cena's signature movesets, they are similar in that their finishers are slams (The Rock Bottom and The AA), they each have a submission hold (The Rock's Sharpshooter and John Cena's STF), they each have an attack move that gains a reaction from the crowd (The People's Elbow and The Five Knuckle Shuffle), they each have a set-up move for their signature attack (The Rock's Spinebuster and John Cena's Spinout Powerbomb), they each have their comeback move (The Rock with the Flying Forearm and John Cena with the Flying Shoulder Block). Lastly, they both got over due to their mic skills (The Rock in 1998/1999 and John Cena in 2003).
- I enjoyed Stone Cold Steve Austin's heel run in 2001. I thought he was fucking hilarious.
- The way that Hulk Hogan was booked as the Superhero from 1984-1992 doesn't do him justice especially when you watch his work from Japan.
- I'm glad that Edge was pushed instead of Matt Hardy.
I totally agree with that and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of other posters agree with that too.
Bret Hart wasn't no slouch. He carried some real hacks to serviceable matches but he was way too vanilla to be anything higher than 'good' for me. His very best matches were with guys much better than him like Owen Hart (There's an unpopular opinion right there) and Stone Cold. Bret really needed a great opponent to get turn that good match in a great one.
Bryan has worked with some terrible guys on the indy circuit in the worst possible conditions and his carrying ability is on par with Bret's but what makes Bryan such a better talent than Bret is how charismatic he is and can get great matches with any capable wrestler.
Considering Hart had awesome matches with Kevin Nash, Hakushi, Davey Boy and Yokozuna I don't see how Bret needed a great opponent to have that kind of match. He had awesome matches with WWF Curt Hennig too, who honestly as a heel wasn't very good. Has Danielson ever carried anybody the way Hart carried Diesel or Davey Boy? Which Danielson matches have a worthless/obviously inferior opponent who Dragon got a really great match out of? I'm not asking in a 'this has never happened' way, I'm asking in a 'I'm legitimately asking' way. OR SOMETHING.
Danielson > Hart is not crazy at all to me but Hart definitely did not need a great opponent.
The lack of respect I see in the internet towards HHH is ridiculous. Whether it will be idiots who mock him for his nose (what the fuck is wrong with his nose? tired of insecure people concerning their own looks) or idiots who claim everything was handled to him and he didn't deserve it.
If HHH haven't proved himself as one of the greats than nobody has ever did either.
Current The Rock is not as good on the mic as he was before leaving.
The Rock's ring skills are decent at best.
People's elbow is one of the worst finishers in WWE history.
Angle Slam is very weak finisher.
Justin Gabriel is very average high flyer - without 450 splash he is weak.
DiBiase, McGillicutty, Steamboat and Dallas are boring - but for their fathers, they wouldn't be in the WWE today.
Kidd, Barreta and Hunico are very underrated.
Riley and McIntyre could easily be upper midcarders.
CM Punk is the best talker in WWE today - The Rock, John Cena, The Miz and Dean Ambrose are behind him.
Sheamus and Orton are weak as the faces - they should turn heel.
Ryback is very impressive powerhouse but he is poor on the mic and doesn't deserve main event status.
The Miz should win WHC and become face of SmackDown, not Sheamus.
Dolph Ziggler is ready for the main event status.
Damien Sandow's gimmick is one of the best gimmicks in recent years.
Evan Bourne should form a TT with Kidd/PAC/Barreta after his return.
Brodus Clay was a good heel on NXT/Superstars and should turn heel.
I'd like to see John Morrison and Kaval back in the WWE.
Undertaker's streak should never be broken.
John Cena should turn heel.
WWE should do away with tag team wrestling completely. Not just the whole tag team division, including the titles, and trying to slap together make-shift tag teams like Team Hell No, but the random tag team main events too.
I just find submissions beyond boring. When was the last time John Cena tapped out? The last I remember is 04 against Angle. Submissions insult our intelligence. We know the guys aint gonna tap from a head lock. We know the 'guy' isn't going to tap out of anything. We know they are just taking a breather. It's boring. I also hate the way they spend minutes in a submission move and the way it's symbolised as not giving up. Sorry but it has nothing to do with choice. If somebody is twisting your ankle you are going to tap. It's like putting your hand on a stove. There's no choice about it you instinctively get the fuck away from the stove.
I repeat: Get rid off submission unless its a finisher. Tell Randy Orton to stop fucking smoking and hit the gym. Maybe if the guys worked a little harder on their stamina rather than their biceps they may be able to go 5 mins without gassing.
- I think Bob Backlund is one of the all time greats
-Bruno Sammartino is greater than Rock and maybe even Austin
-Andre the Giant is the greatest big man of all time
-I loved to watch Corporate Rock and People's Champion but Hollywood Rock is over-rated,he relied too much on cheap heat
-John Cena is an all time great
I have seen you in GOAT discussions.Why do you keep saying Bruno>Austin & Rock?I know you may have a reason but it is without any doubt the most unpopular opinion in this thread.Though I am an Austin fan,from what I have read about Bruno,he is definetly up there and holds a valid argument.
I freaking love Michael Cole. He's an excellent, snarky play hy play guy who is the rghtful voice of the company. He was the best part of NXT, and has always called the action well.
Some from the top of my head:
- Bret Hart was awesome on the mic back in the nineties.
- I never enjoyed WCW when it still existed. Today I can watch and appreciate old WCW shows, but back in the nineties I always thought it sucked.
- While the gimmick itself wasn't a bad idea, I never liked John Cena as a rapper. He didn't "rap", he just spoke his rhymes and came across like some whack Vanilla Ice ripoff.
- I was never a huge fan of Ric Flair's in-ring work. Awesome persona, awesome promo skills, extremely charismatic, etc, but apart from during his WWF run when I was a little kid, and matches like vs HBK at Mania, his matches mostly never did much for me.
- Batista was very charismatic and a really good power house.
- Even though the Katie Vick story was certainly a terrible World Title feud story and pure trash tv, I still enjoyed it. I laughed my ass off over how bad and trashy it was.
- Deathmatch wrestling is disgusting.
- I was never a huge fan of Ric Flair's in-ring work. Awesome persona, awesome promo skills, extremely charismatic, etc, but apart from during his WWF run when I was a little kid, and matches like vs HBK at Mania, his matches mostly never did much for me.
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