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1)Flair won a lot of titles before size/physique was a huge deal and was already so well established when it was.
2) brett was a submission specialist
3) both brett and hbk were in amazing shape.

Anyyywayyy, basically whoevers heel and faces cena is more credible at this point so its punk. As a face champion there's no-one to put you over apart from heel HHH (who's stated he'll never be heel again) or Brock.
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Re: Sheamus or Punk - Who is the more credible champ?

Face Punk was definitely the most credible of the two, but now, Sheamus, hands down. It's down to WWE's horrendous heel booking, though. It isn't Punk's fault.

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Re: Sheamus or Punk - Who is the more credible champ?

Punk obviously, despite being the heel. Sheamus has only beaten Ziggler, Daniel Bryan and Del-Rio, even for casual fans that isn't so credible. Punk however has beaten Miz, Del-Rio, Ziggler, Jericho, Daniel Bryan, Mark Henry, Big Show AND John Cena. Whether he cheated in a couple of them doesn't matter, the casual fans know he is a really credible bad guy and they really want Ryback to finally end his reign.

Not to mention, Cm Punk beat Sheamus.

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Re: Sheamus or Punk - Who is the more credible champ?

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Re: Sheamus or Punk - Who is the more credible champ?

Who's most credible?

Remind me again, who is it that has (at least) SEVEN victories over Cena over the last 2 years?

Sheamus on the other hand has just spent his entire reign owning the shit out of Del Rio & Ricardo.


The nearest to a 'big win' Sheamus has had is vs D-Bry @ WM.... And that's SOME way off!


If they were serious about Sheamus he should have spent this title reign being a monster-killer.... Show, Henry, Ryback, Brodus... all leading up to a fued with Taker along the same lines as the one he had with Batista in 2007.... (Likewise, eventually getting a clean win even if he doesn't end the streak).

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Re: Sheamus or Punk - Who is the more credible champ?

Sheamus. Because of good booking.

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Re: Sheamus or Punk - Who is the more credible champ?

Sheamus. By light years.

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Yeah, pretty much. The fact that the WWE championship is on Punk's shoulders right now is a pretty sad indictment of the company's state right now.

Never thought I'd see the day the one of my most favorite forms of entertainment for real men would ever have a champion who's just as much as tough as a school bus driver.

Just a low point in pro wrestling history.
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Re: Sheamus or Punk - Who is the more credible champ?

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Yeah, pretty much. The fact that the WWE championship is on Punk's shoulders right now is a pretty sad indictment of the company's state right now.

Never thought I'd see the day the one of my most favorite forms of entertainment for real men would ever have a champion who's just as much as tough as a school bus driver.

Just a low point in pro wrestling history.
Yeah, because guys that spend all day in the gym and care so much about their 'look' is a real manly man.

Body Builders are not manly at all. Real tough dudes do not have perfectly sculpted bodies. If Chuck Norris and Lou Ferrigno fought (when they were in their prime) my money's on the hairy dude with the beard. Harley Race could have handed Hogan and Warrior's asses to them on a silver platter.

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Re: Sheamus or Punk - Who is the more credible champ?

Obviously Punk...Sheamus has been horrible.
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Re: Sheamus or Punk - Who is the more credible champ?

The character of Sheamus doesn't take his world title seriously. He's always cracking jokes and no selling heel taunts. CM Punk means business and is a more credible champion.
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