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The Hypocrisy is Amazing

Am I the only one that finds that when former stars(Triple h, Undertaker, Brock, Vince..) return to ''save'' ratings and get ppv buys they are allowed to play by a set of rules the current roster cannot play by. I mean for Vince to be having a 1999 style hardcore match with blood and weapons after years of banning that style is ridiculous. If he would let guys like Barrett and Shameus have those matches they would get over huge.

I've noticed it a lot over the last few years, the new guys are held down, and the returning guys have this ''see that's how it's done'' attitude when it's usually not allowed. Wrestling is BORING when it's two guys in tights rolling around with each other unless there is some serious emotion involved. WWE needs to have brawls and weapons and intensity, that crowd was going crazy, they finally got to see what the want to see, what they are hoping to see come back again. Same with when Nexus made their debut with an awesome edge and violence.
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Re: The Hypocrisy is Amazing

Lameus in a hardcore match would be the worst thing ever, he sucks.
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Re: The Hypocrisy is Amazing

well, first off, what makes those matches so great? Is it the blood, weapons, cheap shots? Or is it the fact that you never see them on WWE so when they rarely appear you mark?

That's how you get the audience to keep watching. They see awesome stuff like Monday's Vince/Punk match and want to keep watching in hopes for the next one. It's business, no hypocrisy. As well, none of us can say for sure if any of the other wrestlers want to do that, get bloody use weapons. Plus, to keep it PG they can't have that stuff on every week. Even back in the Attitude era, we didn't see gushing blood every episode (it wasn't as rare as it is now, but still not every week).

Having blood and weapons is repetitive if done every week, and soon we'll be back with "they need to up the ante again."
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Vince is the boss, so it's his call. I may disagree with how he does things, but in the end he is the one who gets to call the shots. The world isn't fair, and never will be.

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You want hardcore wrestling, go watch CZW. Hardcore is only entertaining when it involves both aspects of HARDCORE and WRESTLING. Watching guys get hit with a florescent light bulb on fire wrapped in barbed wire through a table into thumbtacks isn't wrestling.

[x] Wade Barrett wins any championship
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Re: The Hypocrisy is Amazing

Unless you have incredible workers in the ring there should be some outside action in a big main event wrestling match. If you go back to 1998,1999,2000,2001 you know back when wrestling was cool and socially acceptable to watch, you will notice that main event matches ALWAYS involved the announce tables, chairs, the steps, brawling up the ramp and so on. Some of you may enjoy the lame cookie cutter WWE matches we've been getting for many years but i don't and guess what there are lots of people like me that no longer watch the shows.

I want action, excitement, entertainment. The main event on Raw was great, it was emotional it was fun to watch. We don't get that enough and 99% of the time we do it involves a past star.


For those of you that disagree I guess you aren't fans of classics like Angle vs Austin from Summerslam 2001, HHH vs Cactus Jack from Royal Rumble 2000, Austin vs Dude Love from Over the Edge 1998, Angle vs Shane from KOTR 2001, HHH vs Jericho Fully Loaded and on and on. You can't create intensity and the feeling that there is legitimate hatred by having two guys put on a lame match like the ones we typically see from Orton, Cena, Shameus, even Punk.

Let these guys beat the shit out of each other once in a while, it even gets the crowd making noise! people might even tune in and watch again! And I don't need it all the time but twice a month on tv let things get intense, and ppv matches should have some extra edge to them. Its hard to create stars while they look like they are play fighting.

I don't want ECW or the Hardcore title division nonsense just a little bit of that old Austin style can add so much to the matches and the performers.

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You want hardcore wrestling, go watch CZW. Hardcore is only entertaining when it involves both aspects of HARDCORE and WRESTLING. Watching guys get hit with a florescent light bulb on fire wrapped in barbed wire through a table into thumbtacks isn't wrestling.
I agree. There's a marked difference between well rounded gimmick matches with Kendo sticks, tables, ladder, chairs etc performed by good workers than the awful car crash that is CZW.
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> Wrestling is BORING when it's two guys in tights rolling around with each other unless there is some serious emotion involved.

That is actually my favorite typ of wrestling.
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> Wrestling is BORING when it's two guys in tights rolling around with each other unless there is some serious emotion involved.

That is actually my favorite typ of wrestling.
If it's benoit vs angle or punk vs bryan or jericho vs rey I agree it can be great. Rare though.
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Re: The Hypocrisy is Amazing

After readiong the thread title I thought It would be a thread about the IWC.

I'm pleasantly suprised.

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