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Old 10-09-2012, 03:28 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Well, if these reports should turn out to be true, my bet is on CM Punk. Of course, you can dismiss this by simply stating over and over again how much money he makes now and that he is a main focus of the show, that he holds the WWE championship and all that stuff, but frankly, I think that misses the point. Punk has a history of standing up to McMahon, and as I see it, there's no denying that he is passionate about wrestling and actually cares about the quality of the show. I mean, just a few weeks ago, he publicly stated his frustration with the creative team at a Q&A session, saying that the creative writers have absolutely no idea what they're doing, which struck me as rather unusual. (Go to 2:10)

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So yeah, judging from his chracter and statements like these, I'd say it was Punk.

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Old 10-09-2012, 03:49 PM   #82 (permalink)
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I love baseless rumors and credit-less sources... oh wait, no I don't.

I did love Raw last night, though.
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I reckon it was Cena and it was also why he was there.

Mega low ratings the weekl Cena was off, coincidence?

He is also a guy Vince would listen to. Aswell as Punk.
he is also a guy who sucks vince's ass and would neverrrrr have the backbone to say any of that to his face if anything cena was prob the guy who said "its ok vince he diden't mean it"after he got burnt
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This is how I imagine WWE creative:

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WWE creative I think is a bunch of people clueless about wrestling. Isn't this problematic?
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Well about fucking time is all I have to say on the matter.
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I envisage Punk being in the office saying all this, while a bunch of other guys halfheartedly stand behind looking at the floor sort of mumbling "Yeah, what he said."
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I'd like to think that the pressure has been building over the past year with a lot of things when it comes to Vince and change. He lost a lot of top level stars in Batista, Edge, Jericho. His man crush Shawn Michels retired. One of the pillars of the company for practically the past 2 decades almost has both feet out the door. His son in law has a firm foot planted out the door and a firm foot planted in the office, his office. He's making waves. He's making changes. He's making a difference. His number 1 guy in John Cena is falling apart. Rey Mysterio is falling apart and when he goes the potential to lose a lot of their hispanic market goes too. Randy Orton is on his second strike. CM Punk was so fed up with how things were run that he wanted to leave because he was fed up with the bullshit. All aspects of the business have been steadily falling year by year. He's almost 70 years old and Vince McMahon or not, facing your mortality isn't an easy thing to do. He has grandchildren he no doubt wants to spend his golden years with but at the same time he has a business that is a part of him but that is also starting to feel the effects of horrible decision making from the past. It's all catching up to him right now and like I said, I'd like to think that the pressure has been steadily building.

If that is indeed the case then maybe the rating last week was the final straw and we're set to see some meaningful changes from THE man on top. Punk can do all the complaining he wants but it won't change anything. JR can call upon the talent until he's blue in the face but it won't change anything. Triple H can actually make physical changes to how things are done but he still faces the same roadblock as everybody else. Until the change starts coming from Vince himself, it's all for nothing. Such a drastic move as this, firing or demoting one of your lead guys for over a decade isn't something that is sparked from one conversation with one guy on one night. It's more than likely the culmination of a lot of things imo.

I'd like to think all of this is true but then again, until we actually SEE things start to change, this is all speculative bullshit lol. Having said that, Vince most definitely had a fire inside him on Raw last night. It was very evident and I think he was trying to send a personal message to everybody in the back that shits going down lol. At least, I'd like to think so...
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Who else cud it be. The voice of the voiceless... none other then J.T.G!!!!!
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Of course it was Punk. "wahhh wahhh but he's the champion and earns lots of money!!!!" yeah, I'm pretty sure judging from the entirety of Punk's personality, he's saved up a ton of money and he's a fan who cares about the product and has always wanted it to be better and survive for a long time.

If any wrestling promotion was at least half competently run, WWE would have been blown out the water. I would cum buckets if Heyman magically had millions and started a new promotion. Only in EWR though.

What's even more worrying though is how Vince can't seem to comprehend that there is anything bad with the WWE. Honestly, there being no match because an invisible child that was connected to the fans of John Cena and has become a delusion of a guy's mind beginning to go through puberty had some desire to dance with Brodus Clay and he genuinely believes "They'll love this!"
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