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Superior Quality · 10-09-2012, 12:36 AM

WWE just likes to push big guys, it's never going to change. Cm Punk was over as hell and thus decided to strike the iron while it was hot, Bryan on the other hand if it hadn't been for him getting fired and then brought back he would be in the midcard. You have talented guys like Austin Aries who wwe had a chance to pick up they always miss the boat because they would rather push a big guy. They have done shit like this their entire existance.

Thecreepygeek · 10-09-2012, 02:34 AM

If the small guy has charisma as well as wrestling ability he will draw.

Jeff Hardy
CM Punk(2nd biggest draw today. Deny it all you want)
HBK
Kurt Angle
Eddie(Massive draw in Mexico)
Rey(As above)
Bret(Massive draw outside the USA)

The face of the company on the other hand is all about look, charisma and work ethic.
The entertainment aspect of wrestling which draws in non-wrestling fans.

Hogan couldn't wrestle
Warrior couldn't wrestle
Austin and Rock could do both
Its why they're probably the two best known wrestlers in history(Bar Hogan who popularized it)

Ask a casual who Dean Malenko was. They won't know because he had no charisma.

Ryback won't be the face of the company. My dead Gran gives better promos then him.
Ryback is this years "Bobby Lashley"

Sure. They're building him up now but he's being built to be fed to the next face of the company.
Whoever that may be.

RDClip · 10-09-2012, 03:03 PM

Ric Flair is somewhere between 5'10" and 6'. Just gonna put that out there

JIGLET · 10-09-2012, 04:13 PM

only good small guysh should main event like danielson and kidd not phil brooks the fat geek

Crusade · 10-09-2012, 04:39 PM

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The WMXX ending was awesome, one of the most special moments in WWE history (In spite of the Benoit stuff), but at the end of the day it didn't work as all of us would have wished. Benoit never became a draw...neither Guerrero. They were awesome performers, but they ended up being glorious mid-carders. It's great to have guys like them, main event once in a while, but it's hard to have them as the face of the company...unless they are extremely good looking or have an unbelievable charisma...like HBK.

Benoit I agree with but Guerrero could have been a draw. He was hugely charismatic, was a good talker, excellent worker and the crowd loved him. Unfortunately he wasn't given enough of a chance and of course we know what happened after. Benoit was an amazing worker but didn't have much charisma or mic skills. But size really isn't as much of an issue any more. As you said, HBK was the guy for some time as well as Hart. These two didn't draw big but what I find interesting is is that people cite Austin yet he isn't massive. He is 6'2. Hell Flair, the biggest draw the NWA ever had was 6'1. Not exactly a giant in the wrestling world. Nash has this perception that you have to be at least 6'5 to be a draw. That is completely false.

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Somehow I understand what the WWE has been doing with Cena and what they are trying to do with Sheamus and Ryback. The way I see it, I find really hard to have CM Punk or Daniel Bryan as the face of the WWE. They are not guys who would make a big impact at first sight and that's a very important thing in this business. My brother used to be a WWE fan years ago. One day I told him "Look, this is the new WWE guy." while Punk was entering the ring. He laughed, he thought I was joking, later on he watched his promo and a match and he said "ok, he isn't that bad, but if he is the new guy, I'm glad I stopped watching wrestling long time ago".

I can understand this point and both Bryan and Punk are my favourite wrestlers. They don't have that immediate wow factor with them as they look relatively normal in size. Ryback especially has that wow factor as he has a great look, looks like a complete monster.

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I mean, it's wrestling. Why would you have someone with a generic look and even shorter than the average as the face of your company? time has proved that at least in wrestling...size matters.

Again, guys like Flair and Austin were not giants. Nash was one of the many guys who believed Austin would not be a draw or amount to anything and was completely proven wrong.

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What I find strange is how hard it's to find big guys with a cool personality nowdays. Everyday that passes I appreciate guys like Hogan and the Rock even more than I used to.

The strangest thing is that the guys with the best personalities and most interesting personas aren't huge in the slightest. There really isn't a new wrestler in WWE who is over 6'5, the minimal size Nash thinks is needed to draw who has any interesting personality whatsoever.

Asenath · 10-09-2012, 04:43 PM

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There really isn't a new wrestler in WWE who is over 6'5, the minimal size Nash thinks is needed to draw who has any interesting personality whatsoever.

Wade Barrett.

Except it will never happen because he's English.

**Warrior** · 10-09-2012, 04:48 PM

Smaller guy I believe can draw but it would take time. They need to book them in a unique way that would want the crowd and the audience to invest in them. Most smaller guys are booked as cowardly due to their size in WWE. With bigger guys the WWE books them as wrecking machines and people get invested. WWE has used that formula for a long time now. It is no secret WWE uses the big guys to draw in an audience but sometimes they depend on that too much and ignore the storyline and in turn produces a crappy product. So in conclusion a good storyline and character can eventually draw in an audience. WWE has a formula that works so I understand why they don't plan to derive new formulas.

CMPunk665 · 10-09-2012, 11:14 PM

I would watch WWE weekly if there was nobody over 250 lbs on the roster. Big guys= boring matches. Bryan and Punk are the perfect size to put on an entertaining match. When was the last time you saw a decent match with 2 big guys in a singles match?

**Sho'nuff** · 10-09-2012, 11:18 PM

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I would watch WWE weekly if there was nobody over 250 lbs on the roster. Big guys= boring matches. Bryan and Punk are the perfect size to put on an entertaining match. When was the last time you saw a decent match with 2 big guys in a singles match?

Extreme Rules, the past 2 Wrestlemanias.

#PushKofiKingston · 10-09-2012, 11:48 PM

Wasn't Rey Mysterio a draw? If I'm not mistaken he was pulling in ratings in 2006.