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Old 10-08-2012, 04:30 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Do you think CM Punk and Daniel Bryan are short? Because I would say that being 6'1 is tall and 5'10 is average.
They are short...average at most. I have a feeling the WWE plays a lot with heights. I'm 6'2 and I've met both...they look like midgets compared to me and I'm slim. And maybe it's not about height at all it's about looks in general. In Bryan's case it's totally his height...he is to small, besides that, he is perfect. Speaking about Punk he looks literally like a punk. I also met Taker and HHH the guys are immense they really intimidate. You know they are something special at first sight and I confess I hate HHH.

I just want to clear up that I'm talking about the new face of the WWE. There's no doubt Punk and Bryan are great. In fact they are some of my favorites right now, but you need much more to be the next icon.

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Old 10-08-2012, 04:32 PM   #22 (permalink)
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People seem to be conflating "main eventer" and "face of the company". A small guy with the character, charisma, and wrestling ability (only big guys can get away with sucking in the ring) necessary can appropriately be given top billing.

Its having a smaller guy as champion or face of the company is where the size issue really comes into play. Its easy to buy a smaller guy as being just plain better than the majority of big guys. Its another thing entirely to present a smaller than average wrestler as THE best wrestler in the promotion.
Exactly what I'm trying to say. English is not my first language and sometimes I have a little trouble to explain myself. Thanks.

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Old 10-08-2012, 04:44 PM   #23 (permalink)
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What does Bryan beeing a manlet have to do with his skills? Guess nobody read my post lol. It's all about believeability, and as long as WWE books the smaller guys right (especially in the storytelling/psychology department, not just match results) and make them out as a big deal I don't think they will fail, assuming they have everything else in place.
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:45 PM   #24 (permalink)
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In my opinion smaller guys are healthier and suffer less health problems post retirement due to carrying around less weight and having better stamina...I think leaner physiques should be encouraged. It looks better and its better for their health. Carrying around too much muscle can be just as bad as carrying around too much fat, its bad for the heart. For god sakes, Ryback looks uncomfortably big, like someone blows him up with a tyre pump before each match...
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:56 PM   #25 (permalink)
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What does Bryan beeing a manlet have to do with his skills? Guess nobody read my post lol. It's all about believeability, and as long as WWE books the smaller guys right (especially in the storytelling/psychology department, not just match results) and make them out as a big deal I don't think they will fail, assuming they have everything else in place.
I got what you said. I liked your post. For example building Daniel Bryan like being a Chuck Norris, right? I mean Norris doesn't look impresive in any ways yet we all look at him like an invincible guy. I think it could be done, but they should have to build an immense campaign to support it and he would have to beat clean and square guys like the Rock and Lesnar and Cena to gain this kind of credibility. It would awesome if the WWE could build Bryan like that because he is great in every sense.
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Smaller guys can be main eventers and champions but they can't be the 'face of the company' because they simply don't fit the bill. Guys in that position have to strike a chord with the masses, the casual fans and history has proven that it's the big, ripped, muscular, charismatic and aesthetically pleasing guys who are accepted in that role, not the smaller types. Hogan, Rock, Austin > HBK, Hart, Eddie.
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If Floyd Mayweather can draw, then anybody can draw in pro-wrestling given the right push no matter how big/small.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:19 PM   #28 (permalink)
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HBK says hi. Didn't HBK keep the WWF within touching distance of WCW during the days where the gulf in the quality of the shows was at it's largest?

As someone else said, if it entertains me it gets my money. Each one to their own though. If you're a fan and you care about ratings...well you should have a real good think to yourself. I don't see people watching Dexter or Breaking Bad and having ratings as their main talking point after, but maybe that's just what WWE has become, so poor people only find ratings to have a good debate on.
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If Floyd Mayweather can draw, then anybody can draw in pro-wrestling given the right push no matter how big/small.
Boxing/MMA comparisons don't work when it comes to a 'fake' TV show. With boxers and MMA fighters everybody knows they are fighting in a legitimate competitive event. There is no suspension of disbelief because it's real. In WWE, that isn't the case and they aren't the same thing. The vast majority of casual fans are tuning in to see the guys they won't normally see on the street everyday. That's why Daniel Bryan could never do or be to them what John Cena is to them. It doesn't work that way. I hate to drag this up but just look at the problems Punk is having and he isn't even that small. Getting people to buy into you as a main event star is one thing. Getting them to buy into you as THE main even star is something different entirely. You need to have the physical presence to pull it off which is once again why guys like Cena play the leading man role and guys like Bryan play as a member of the supporting cast.
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The only size that matters for main eventing is the size of the reaction you get. That's why Del Rio, one of the most ostensibly perfect main eventers in the WWE, tends to kinda stink when he's main eventing, but Bryan could absolutely slot back in at any point. As for being the face of the company, just take that main event field, and pick the guy you trust, who's working the hardest. Punk didn't fail as face of the company, he was never even positioned as it. He's just sort of occupying whatever space WWE can't use Cena to fill. Orton probably suffered from that too, come to think of it.
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