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Old 10-07-2012, 03:04 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Mic Work: 2
Promo Skills: 2
Charisma: 3
In Ring ability:3
Storytelling:2
Ring Psychology:2
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:13 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Ok, I tried to stay out of this but seriously fuck off. No, no seriously you're a terrible debater. You really are.

"For every 1 good match Cena has, Angle has 20" that's not supporting your view at all. That's just called over exaggeration.

"Angle's random RAW matches shit on Cena's best performances from a freakin' 20 foot ladder" doesn't even make any sense. R.I.P. English.

"If Cena could put on a match 1/5 of the quality Angle had with the likes of Rock, Austin etc" is 1) an immeasurable statistic. What is 1/5 the quality of his matches? Which match? and 2)Cena has had one match with Rock and none with Austin. How can you compare the countless Rock/Angle and Angle/Austin with just one Cena/Rock and absolutely no Cena/Austin? And who the fuck is etc?

"Kurt gave him that one good match because he doesn't have many" I swear to God we just compiled a huge ass list of matches not just in this thread but the official match thread comprising of quite a few Cena matches.

Again, for the last time. Come up with a list with, of what you think, Angle's greatest matches and explain why they were great. Explain the psychology behind it and how such and such a move contributed to tone, atmosphere and the overall match. When you can do that then reply to this. Otherwise, just do what this thread asked you to do or post elsewhere. Point is, shut up about the debate because you are losing. When you can actually bring something to the table worth discussing instead of a bunch of over exaggerated and senseless statements such as "What makes Angle so great is that the quality of his body of work dwarves Cena's at a ratio of about 763/1." then I would waste time having a conversation with you.

Also when you learn to support and elaborate a statement such as "What makes Angle so great is that his brilliance, excellence and innovation inside and outside of the ring, as a wrestler, worker and as a character makes Cena's bland, unimaginitive, lazy, stale, boring, awkward, formulaic, untalented persona looking like the low-midcard talent he is.", only then can you partake in this discussion because clearly some level of intelligence is needed to participate in this discussion. A level which you are way, way below.
This is the biggest bucket of straw man diarrhea and verbal gymnastics i've read in a while. What a sack of mindless derp. Also, reported for insulting. If you can't be nice don't play with the big kids. Bye.
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:14 PM   #53 (permalink)
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CM Punk:

Mic Work: 3
Promo Skills: 3.5
Charisma: 2
In Ring ability: 3.5

Dolph Ziggler:

Mic Work: 1
Promo Skills: 1
Charisma: 0.5
In Ring ability: 3.5

Removed the last two because I'm not sure how to rate them.
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:21 PM   #54 (permalink)
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This is the biggest bucket of straw man diarrhea and verbal gymnastics i've read in a while. What a sack of mindless derp. Also, reported for insulting. If you can't be nice don't play with the big kids. Bye.
Just thought that I'd add that you are yet to reply with a meaningful post in response to Cactus. All I got from your posts is BUT ANGLE IS A BETTER TECHNICAL WRESTLER!!!
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:48 PM   #55 (permalink)
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This is the biggest bucket of straw man diarrhea and verbal gymnastics i've read in a while. What a sack of mindless derp. Also, reported for insulting. If you can't be nice don't play with the big kids. Bye.
You know, you really fail at debating.

I think Cena is better than Angle. It's an opinion that's in the minority but I've backed it up. You on the other hand are just posted horseshit like 'LOL YOU NO NOTHIN BOUT RASSLIN IF YOU THINK DAT!!! ANGELS DAH BEST RASSLER ON DAH PLANET!!!'. If you honestly think Angle is better than Cena AND you could back it up and tell us WHY those matches of Angle's are so much better than Cena, I could maybe, JUST MAYBE, respect your opinion.
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:54 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Sheamus

Mic Work (just the eloquence)2
Promo Skills 2
Charisma 3
In Ring ability 4
Storytelling .5
Ring Psychology .5

Khali

Mic Work (just the eloquence) 0
Promo Skills 0
Charisma 2
In Ring ability 0
Storytelling 0
Ring Psychology 0

Big Show

Mic Work (just the eloquence)3
Promo Skills 2
Charisma 3
In Ring ability 1
Storytelling 1
Ring Psychology 1

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Charisma 2
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:55 PM   #57 (permalink)
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I like Cena as an in ring performer but when I'm watching wrestling I also like to pretend that what I'm witnessing is a genuine athletic contest and there are far too many moments in his matches where he does something stupid and clumsy that shatters the illusion of reality. Punk and Jericho are also guilty of this quite often with their painfully obvious spot calling, a flaw that just by itself separates true world class workers from simply great workers imo.


Anyway, Triple H:

Mic Work: 4
Promo Skills: 3
Charisma: 4
In Ring ability: 4

Storytelling and psychology are a sum of the parts that make up in ring ability. It doesn't make much sense to separate them.
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Old 10-07-2012, 05:36 PM   #58 (permalink)
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I think Cena is better than Angle. It's an opinion that's in the minority but I've backed it up.
It's mostly just because this forum is full of trolls, children or previously banned posters that re-registered (when they were banned the first time for a reason). It's not really a minority opinion, it's just that a lot of people are uninformed or have heard something one way for so long that they never question it. Like children believing in Santa Claus, or religious beliefs. ;-)



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I like Cena as an in ring performer but when I'm watching wrestling I also like to pretend that what I'm witnessing is a genuine athletic contest and there are far too many moments in his matches where he does something stupid and clumsy that shatters the illusion of reality. Punk and Jericho are also guilty of this quite often with their painfully obvious spot calling, a flaw that just by itself separates true world class workers from simply great workers imo.
This is a good argument that I would be able to appreciate.

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Old 10-07-2012, 05:43 PM   #59 (permalink)
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It's mostly just because this forum is full of trolls, children or previously banned posters that re-registered (when they were banned the first time for a reason). It's not really a minority opinion, it's just that a lot of people are uninformed or have heard something one way for so long that they never question it. Like children believing in Santa Claus, or religious beliefs. ;-)

While we're not in the minority in places like PWO and DVDVR, we are when it comes to general wrestling fans. People buy into the gimmick of Cena 'can't wrestle' and Angle is a GOAT wrestler because he's booked as one.

Just for the record, I have no issue with Angle fans. If you enjoy him, good for you. But Angle's a guy who totally go against the mechanics of pro-wrestling (selling, pacing, storytelling etc) and is all flash in the pan with little substance.
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