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How come there are no bad ass faces?

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Faces that just beat up other faces for the hell of it, or dont need a reason to beat up a heel just do it. The baby faces are goody two shoes.

The Rock, Austin, Triple H,Jerichoseemed like everyone back in the day.
 
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Not WWE, but still, faces outheeling heels, made me lol (among most Hogan promos nowadays). Wouldn't probably work in WWEs environment though given their very "safe" mindset.
 
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You back yourself in a corner when you make a face character that does heel things. Once you get a character like that over, it becomes increasingly difficult to turn them heel down the road. With the Internet it is already pretty difficult to perform a heel turn on a popular face character that doesn't even do heelish things. Look at punk, it took him a lot of segments to get people to boo him.
 
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You back yourself in a corner when you make a face character that does heel things. Once you get a character like that over, it becomes increasingly difficult to turn them heel down the road. With the Internet it is already pretty difficult to perform a heel turn on a popular face character that doesn't even do heelish things. Look at punk, it took him a lot of segments to get people to boo him.
It's not because CM Punk was a 'badass' face that is impairing his ability to get heel heat, it's the fact that they are expecting the older audience to buy that he's a heel because of some stupid as hell storyline, and how he won't ever gain respect for being champ or beating Cena and still won't as soon as he drops the belt to Cena.

The best angle to turn a badass face to heel is to basically have them clearly sell out. Take an offer from a heel stable, take a kayfabe bribe to take a dive, something that completely goes against what made them a badass to begin with.

Or that's my opinion on the matter, and as others have pointed out, currently Ryback is something of a badass face.
 
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One of the reasons I don't mind Ryback so much is that he's not a face in the cookie-cutter mold. He's probably the closest WWE can get to an intense face in this climate.
 
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why no Badass faces?

CORPORATE RULING and PG ERA

Since their target audience are kids, they have to make a clear cut difference between Good and Evil.

Orton is the closest but the PG era prevents him from fully utilizing the Badass face to full potential.

Plus they have this anti-bullying campaign.
 
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I don't remember any point in time when face just went around beating the shit out of faces and heels for no reason. Not even in the attitude era. I feel like this is just another "OH WE MISS DA ATTITUDE ERA" post.If anything the faces today lack that wise cracking attitude that most faces in the attitude era possessed. Don't see cocky borderline arrogant face anymore like The Rock either.

Also, none of the faces fit that description to day at all. Ryback has only been beating up heels. He is clearly a face. He even came to the aid of a face when Punk attacked Mic Foley. Orton doesn't fit it either. Is he still an asshole in real life? Yes but his character is as face as John Cena. Just with a bad guy facial expression.
 
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Sheamus was meant to be that. They ruined the poor fella.
 
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Because when they become badass, the fans start liking them, cheer for them and then the WWE is forced to turn them face. Then from there, they start doing things that aren't badass thus killing the character that they built up and got over with. See Randy Orton as the perfect example of this routine. This is why it's hard to keep a wrestler as a badass.
 
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Because when they become badass, the fans start liking them, cheer for them and then the WWE is forced to turn them face. Then from there, they start doing things that aren't badass thus killing the character that they built up and got over with. See Randy Orton as the perfect example of this routine. This is why it's hard to keep a wrestler as a badass.
its not hard, WWE just wants to make every face the kissing babies, hugging fat girls, type of face. Sheamus got over as a Angry Bad-ass Irish, not what they have made him now. Triple-H was face for a long time and stayed bad-ass/egoistic.
 
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