it's a shame that he's the only badass gimmick around and he's ripped off from Goldberg
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Ryback
Orton
Sheamus
Sheamus ? the guy who carried hornswoggle after he eliminated him from the battle royal on SD last christmas ? no , not a badass
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"Every single thing you're doing right now in the wwe john , going to every show , The Rock has already done it . Every single thing you're thinking about doing , outside of the wwe , The Rock has already done it , as a matter of fact The Rock has done it better !"
I don't remember any point in time when face just went around beating the shit out of faces and heels for no reason. Not even in the attitude era. I feel like this is just another "OH WE MISS DA ATTITUDE ERA" post.If anything the faces today lack that wise cracking attitude that most faces in the attitude era possessed. Don't see cocky borderline arrogant face anymore like The Rock either.
Also, none of the faces fit that description to day at all. Ryback has only been beating up heels. He is clearly a face. He even came to the aid of a face when Punk attacked Mic Foley. Orton doesn't fit it either. Is he still an asshole in real life? Yes but his character is as face as John Cena. Just with a bad guy facial expression.
Austin did
I remember somewhere around 2001 or 2000 his music hit during a tag team match between the Dudleyz and Jericho vs Benoit and E&C
he rushed down the ring and smacked everyone with a chair , then called out triple h
point is , enough smiling goofy faces
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"Every single thing you're doing right now in the wwe john , going to every show , The Rock has already done it . Every single thing you're thinking about doing , outside of the wwe , The Rock has already done it , as a matter of fact The Rock has done it better !"
In the majority of the attitude era he was a pure face. no doubt about it
tweener is just a term invented in the cynicism of the 90s, but Austin is just as much of a old school face as cena or hogan. The outer layer changed, coat was different but nothing he did was meant to antagonise the crowd, and it didnt
Randy Orton has been one of WWE's most badass faces since 2010. He's not one of those cheesy, smiling and forced main-event babyfaces like John Cena and Sheamus. He actually has an edge to his character, and I really dig his "I don't give a f*ck" attitude. He reminds me a whole lot of Steve Austin from back in the day - they both have that badass attitude which people love, and would get cheered no matter what heel-ish things they do.
Ryback's pretty badass too I must say, but I guess that's expected when you're a Goldberg V2.
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They last tried it with Punk, but completely fucked it up by directing it toward one of the very few actual living legends within the WWE mere weeks after a face turn. A badass face character might be able to get away with butting heads with the other faces, but in that instance they pushed it way too far. The taunting and the disrespect could work wonderfully against heels, but it was too much for someone as over as Triple H.
Having said that, I do think there's one guy who fits the description. Randy Orton's character is portrayed as both a face and a badass. He's unpredictable, he'll strike first, he'll stand up to faces and he never has to explain any of it. He's never presented as crossing the line, he's never treated like he's gone too far. Whether he's utterly destroying Christian or suddenly assaulting Sheamus the guy is treated, respected and liked as a face.
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Some of the answers in this thread are mind boggling. People clearly have no idea what they're talking about. Anybody who says that being a badass heel isn't a good thing and doesn't work is foolish because some of the biggest names in the sports history where built up as total badasses.