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The Overabundance of Weekly WWE Material

This is a rather simple thread, meant for discussion.. Allow me to explain something first.

Now I was an avid WWE fan between 2002/3 and 2007/8. I can't honestly remember when I finally gave up watching the product, but it was somewhere around 2007. I remember Jeff Hardy's WWE title reign, that is about it.

Now during that entire time, WWE had 4 hours of MAIN product being televised weekly. You had a 2 hour RAW, and a 2 hour Smackdown, Monday and Thursday, respectively. Of course SD would move to Friday, and all was still well.

For a lot of those years they even had Heat on Sunday nights and Velocity on Saturday nights (If I remember correctly). That was sweet, it highlighted some cruiserweights and tag teams etc etc..

Now, figure this. WWE aired 4 hours of their main product a week. And with those 4 hours, and a distinct roster on each show mind you, they were able to showcase all the talent they needed to. They were able to make you care about the characters they presented to you. The shows were highly entertaining and there was a perfect blend of wrestling and promos, mic time, backstage segments, interviews, etc etc.

In today's WWE, it is so much different. I returned this year shortly before Wrestlemania, and I come back to discover that everything is drastically different. Most people aren't featured, the characters don't get ample time to individualize themselves, and the shows just seemed mediocre. Now after several weeks I discover that WWE in fact turned to a PG rating. I had not known this previously.

This is no problem in my mind, that's all fine and dandy. PG isn't my issue, though it does lend a hand in explaining why the product is so drastically different today.

There is no more roster split, that's something I'm still getting used to. And now with the expansion of RAW to 3 hours, it feels like even LESS talent gets featured. They've certainly been fixing this in the past month or so, but my argument still stands.

Why is there so much content now? Split between a 3 hour RAW, a 2 hour Smackdown, the addition of the 1 hour Main Event, and something called NXT and Superstars (I have no idea what these are), and yet STILL talent has yet to be featured and it feels like there's very few characters to actually care about.

TL;DR, WWE has so much content to offer on a weekly basis, yet I feel like they feature so little actual product. With only 4 hours a week plus the small Velocity/Heat shows, they provided so much only a few years ago.

How is this possible?

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Re: The Overabundance of Weekly WWE Material

I think the major problem in WWE is the overexposure. Why does CM Punk get 10 segments in the past two raws and tonights Main Event? couldnt that time be used to build a guy like Ryback's character, or to give someone who is under used a shot?

The comedic overage is terrible aswell. I think Anger Management is funny and all, but spread it out. Do one a month, or do it for special occassions, or have it if they can't get along, they have to go back and see Dr Shelby.

Why don't we see the high flyers anymore? Give them one match a show, to either start the show, or to start an hour. The good wrestling abilities of Tyson Kidd and Justin Gabriel are enough to make someone keep watching the programming, and can even lead to a feud somewhere.

Why does everything seem so rushed on Raw? It's three hours! There is no reason to rush anything. The fact that the Miz doesn't have a feud or title match set up for HIAC is dumb. The tag team tournament is a great idea, and WWE needs more ideas like that because even if a guy gets jobbed early in the Tourney, maybe he gets a great crowd reaction and can get a push, or some more matches to fill more time later. Vince and his crew are dropping the ball.

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I have a problem with the same people on raw every week,why does cena,punk hell even sheamus who is smackdowns champion need to be on all the time.Use people like Kidd, Gabriel,Hunico and build the midcard.


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Re: The Overabundance of Weekly WWE Material

NXT is the rebranded Florida Championship Wrestling, WWE's current developmental territory. They figured they would feature some of their developmental talent before being called to the main roster.

Superstars is almost like Heat/Velocity, it's the lowcarder's show.
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Re: The Overabundance of Weekly WWE Material

WWE is comparable to WCW in 1998 and 1999 for those people on here who remember it. They had very little going as in storylines, apart from NWO vs. NWO and rise of Goldberg. But they had lots of TV exposure:

Monday - Nitro (3 hours)
Thursday - Thunder (2 hours)
Saturday - Worldwide (1 hour)
Saturday - Saturday Night (2 hours)
Sunday - Pro (1 hour)

This meant many hours of pointless matches of guys who were never even pushed, such as Barry Darsow vs. Chris Adams, Buddy Lee Parker vs. Van Hammer etc.
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4 hours are recaps and touts, 1 hour is filler crap and 30 minutes is actually some form of wrestling entertainment.
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WWE is comparable to WCW in 1998 and 1999 for those people on here who remember it. They had very little going as in storylines, apart from NWO vs. NWO and rise of Goldberg. But they had lots of TV exposure:

Monday - Nitro (3 hours)
Thursday - Thunder (2 hours)
Saturday - Worldwide (1 hour)
Saturday - Saturday Night (2 hours)
Sunday - Pro (1 hour)

This meant many hours of pointless matches of guys who were never even pushed, such as Barry Darsow vs. Chris Adams, Buddy Lee Parker vs. Van Hammer etc.
Didn't this play a role in the demise of the company? If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me. I was young during this time and wasn't watching wrestling.

If I am correct, could the same thing happen with WWE? I don't see it going under, but this could cause a lose of viewership.. look at the raw rating the past 2 weeks. 2.7 and 2.5.. now with even more bullshit, who's going to spend 6 hours a week watching a mediocre product on three seperate shows?

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Re: The Overabundance of Weekly WWE Material

This is what schedule SHOULD be:


Sunday-Heat(and PPV once a month)
Monday-PPV Aftermath and Raw
Tuesday-Raw aftermath
Wednesday-nothing
Thursday-Smackdown
Friday-Smackdown aftermath
Saturday-Weekly recap show

That's all WWE needs.

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Didn't this play a role in the demise of the company? If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me. I was young during this time and wasn't watching wrestling.

If I am correct, could the same thing happen with WWE? I don't see it going under, but this could cause a lose of viewership.. look at the raw rating the past 2 weeks. 2.7 and 2.5.. now with even more bullshit, who's going to spend 6 hours a week watching a mediocre product on three seperate shows?

Arguably it led to PPV buyrates falling and TV ratings falling as people got bored. Though they also had heavy competition from WWE. I think it played a huge part.
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I have a problem with the same people on raw every week,why does cena,punk hell even sheamus who is smackdowns champion need to be on all the time.Use people like Kidd, Gabriel,Hunico and build the midcard.
To make things worst that makes Sheamus, Orton & Del Rio work twice as hard. Infact Sheamus had three matches in two days. That's just ridiculous.

I remember when Edge injured his achilles I think he had wrestle 7-8 matches that week
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