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Old 10-04-2012, 12:10 AM   #11 (permalink)
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how sick would it be if jose came back and managed someone else to become champ.. like say.. dolph ziggler!!
The man is 77 years old.

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Old 10-04-2012, 12:20 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I read about it a long time ago and it was Shawn being a prick as per usual routine and disrespecting his "manager" behind the curtain. An incident that stuck with me was when Shawn won the title and told Jose to get the fuck out of the ring while he celebrated.

Edit: Found it. Notice Shawn calls Earl over and whispers something to him and then Earl goes to Jose and you can see Jose throw his hand up in a disappointed way, then proceed to leave the ring after standing in there for about 15 seconds.

Yeah, that's pretty shitty. Never noticed that before, but I guess it's just wanting all the limelight like an egotistical piece of shit for his moment of glory.

Hell, Taker at Mania 23, while Batista was still in the ring tells the referee "Get his ass out of here." Same shit, after basking in the glory for many years before, just don't hear anyone mention that.
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Yeah, that's pretty shitty. Never noticed that before, but I guess it's just wanting all the limelight like an egotistical piece of shit for his moment of glory.

Hell, Taker at Mania 23, while Batista was still in the ring tells the referee "Get his ass out of here." Same shit, after basking in the glory for many years before, just don't hear anyone mention that.
Hang on, I read in Bret's book that Shawn was telling him to get out of the ring, not Jose?
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So, who's Jose Lothario?
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:31 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Man, Shawn was an asshole. They cover that incident in the Rivalry DVD too.
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Hell, Taker at Mania 23, while Batista was still in the ring tells the referee "Get his ass out of here." Same shit, after basking in the glory for many years before, just don't hear anyone mention that.
Found that one too. 17:40 in this vid.

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its damn amazing to me how Michaels gets a free pass over and over and over time and time and time again while bret is known as king of ego maniacs to the IWC..

CLEARLY Brets high on himself...

but man guys like HHH CENA FLAIR MICHAELS HOGAN bret couldnt even lace his boots to these guys when it comes to Ego Maniacs..hell dare i say u can add Austin to that list aswell
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Hang on, I read in Bret's book that Shawn was telling him to get out of the ring, not Jose?
Hmm. I always thought that Shawn was a dick here, as it looked like Bret was waiting to shake his hand. But in the "Greatest Rivalries" DVD, they go over this. Apparently it was planned to look that way, to have something to re-spark the feud when Bret came back from his hiatus.
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Default Re: Shawn Michaels/Jose Lothario falling out?

After winning the title, HBK should've superkicked Jose and immediately turned heel. They could've made an angle out of HBK disrespecting the old man. The 1996 babyface HBK wasn't very exciting.
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Default Re: Shawn Michaels/Jose Lothario falling out?

Yeah, I think this is just a matter of people looking for a reason. I am sure Shawn didnt want Lothario as a manager, and as the Attitude Era went on, they decided to get rid of Lothario. As far as not mentioning him n his HOF speech or retirement speech, whatever...first, you cant mention everybody. Secondly, we really are not sure how much "training" Lothario gave him. It was a storyline. For all we know, Lothario might have given Shawn very little training, or bad training. Ya never know.
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