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Stall_19 · 10-04-2012, 02:06 AM

Ugh, yes Miz came from the Real World but why should where he came from have an relevance to where he is now. He obviously works hard. That should be all that matters.

**Mr.Cricket** · 10-04-2012, 02:27 AM

Why do all these ex wwe wrestlers picks on Miz? leave the guy alone ffs.

The XL · 10-04-2012, 02:36 AM

Lol at butthurt Miz marks taking shots at Batista. Batista was a good worker with a ton of good matches, and his 2010 heel mic work>>anything Miz has done

-Skullbone- · 10-04-2012, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Smackdownfan777

How or why would Batista be jealous of wack miz? He cann't wrestler to save his life. And Batista makes more money than miztake will ever.

Miz has been involved in some good matches over the years. The key issue is that he struggles to perform in ME-style matches.

**King Bebe** · 10-04-2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Monterossa

seriously.... Batista, Botchista, Roidtista, Batisteroid... the bodybuilder turned into a shitty wrestler.

The Miz has more moves compare to him, Miz is faster than him, more agile than him, better than him on the mic, etc.

Tista only have the look and muscles, he never entertain me with his matches. actually I fell asleep during his matches few times.

Miz is not a talented wrestler but at least he loves wrestling, he has the passion, he has good attitude and he never give up.

Batista... you gave up being a wrestler just because you don't like the way WWE is right now.

you're just a loser. don't compare yourself to the Miz. Miz proved himself to everyone. he proved that everyone can be anything they want. he's small, he doesn't have any wrestling experience, he doesn't has any connection in wrestling industry. but he made it.

You, Batisteroid, the loser... you're even lower than Zach Gowen or Chris Nowinski. so shut the fuck up.

Batista was never proven to be on steriods. Such ignorance on this forum.

Not every big guy is on steriods, some people can maintain a physique like that by power lifting and doing stuff you nerds can only dream of. It's called being dedicated and putting hard work in. Do you think Mason Ryan is on steriods? You probably do. So ask yourself this question - why the fuck would WWE protect a guy like MASON RYAN when top guys like Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio and Edge have all been caught on the juice? That doesn't make any sense to me.

Miz doesn't love wrestling, he loves WWE. There's a difference. This is the guy that didn't know who the fuck Bryan Danielson was before NXT. Most wrestlers would know this guy, but Miz? Nope. He was clueless. The guy has no moves, him and his 255 neckbreaker combinations aren't good moves. He moves around in the ring like an amateur and he's been doing this for SIX YEARS.

Miz to me, is still a TV personality. Not a professional wrestler. He'd rather rather appear on Jay Leno and Jimmy Fallon than learn some new wrestling moves. He is a Rock wannabe and he's lucky that Mr. Kennedy got fired. As for being on Batista's level, the guy isn't even on the level below Batista. I'm just speaking the truth. Miz might be a nice guy, he might be the hardest worker in the company as far as getting up and going to TV appearances, but he is a lousy wrestler and it pains me to watch him on WWE.

Batista appreciates and contributes everything that is good about wrestling. He refused to be an ass kissing yes man, he is above that. He will go down as a WWE Legend. Miz will go down as the worst WWE Champion ever who was apart of the worst Wrestlemania main event ever.

Batista > Shit > Miz.

Mike Zybyszko · 10-04-2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kentonbomb

Batista was never proven to be on steriods. Such ignorance on this forum.

The eyeball test proves Batista was juiced to the gills, yet you call the forums ignorant. Are you seriously this naive? NOBODY gets a build like Batista without juicing to the max. It's not possible otherwise.

^^^This is about as big as a person can get without juicing.

Here is Ultimate Warrior while fully juiced:

And here is Warrior after stopping the juice:

Much, much smaller. His arms about half the size. His overall definition is gone by at least half as well, and he is still benefitting from the residual muscles one builds while juiced. A Jim Hellwig who never juiced, but worked out every bit as much would be even smaller.

**King Bebe** · 10-04-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mr cricket

Why do all these ex wwe wrestlers picks on Miz? leave the guy alone ffs.

I'll tell you why.

His title reign represents the reason people like Batista, MVP, Matt Hardy and Carlito left WWE. It was a travesty. One of the darkest days in WWE History. To be a champion in WWE, you need more than the ability to do a few talk shows.

To be a champion you need

To be able to actually wrestle - Guys like Batista, MVP, Carlito... these guys could tear the house down. They could have the crowd on their feet. I can name better matches from a midcarder like MVP than a former WWE Champion in The Miz. I could say the same for guys like Shelton Benjamin and Mr. Kennedy. Imagine busting your ass in the ring every night, proving yourself as one of the best in the world, and then have them award the title to this guy. I know I'd be pissed.

You need to be a tough guy - Say what you will about guys like Del Rio, Sheamus, Goldberg, they all looked TOUGH. They all looked like guys you didn't wanna mess with. To make it in wrestling, you need to look badass. And if you don't have that aura about you, you need to have the world-class athlete look or the iconic look. I'm not saying Miz isn't a tough guy, not at all. Wrestling is hard on the body, but Miz doesn't strike me as a badass type. He doesn't strike me as a world-class athlete and there's certaintly nothing iconic about him.

**King Bebe** · 10-04-2012, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Zybyszko

The eyeball test proves Batista was juiced to the gills, yet you call the forums ignorant. Are you seriously this naive? NOBODY gets a build like Batista without juicing to the max. It's not possible otherwise.

^^^This is about as big as a person can get without juicing.

Here is Ultimate Warrior while fully juiced:

And here is Warrior after stopping the juice:

Much, much smaller. His arms about half the size. His overall definition is gone by at least half as well, and he is still benefitting from the residual muscles one builds while juiced. A Jim Hellwig who never juiced, but worked out every bit as much would be even smaller.

This is Batista in 2010:

This certaintly doesn't look like a "juicer" to me. You take a former bodybuilder like Dave Batista, and what do you expect? He's dedicated to this sorta thing. I'm not denying that he ever did them, but it's never been proven, therefore people can't say it like it's fact. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Cause it seems to me that it's now "guilty until proven innocent."

Besides that, who gives a fuck who's on steriods? Batista is still better than Miz by a continent mile. And any real wrestling fan would see that.

Evil Peter · 10-04-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kentonbomb

This is Batista in 2010:

This certaintly doesn't look like a "juicer" to me. You take a former bodybuilder like Dave Batista, and what do you expect? He's dedicated to this sorta thing. I'm not denying that he ever did them, but it's never been proven, therefore people can't say it like it's fact. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Cause it seems to me that it's now "guilty until proven innocent."

Besides that, who gives a fuck who's on steriods? Batista is still better than Miz by a continent mile. And any real wrestling fan would see that.

I was about to tell you a few things about this but it's probably more entertaining to just ask; why does that not look like a juicer to you, and what do you think a juicer looks like?

Also, do these guys look more like juicers than Batista to you (these are big heavyweights too)?

Pro Royka · 10-04-2012, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Monterossa

seriously.... Batista, Botchista, Roidtista, Batisteroid... the bodybuilder turned into a shitty wrestler.

The Miz has more moves compare to him, Miz is faster than him, more agile than him, better than him on the mic, etc.

Tista only have the look and muscles, he never entertain me with his matches. actually I fell asleep during his matches few times.

Miz is not a talented wrestler but at least he loves wrestling, he has the passion, he has good attitude and he never give up.

Batista... you gave up being a wrestler just because you don't like the way WWE is right now.

you're just a loser. don't compare yourself to the Miz. Miz proved himself to everyone. he proved that everyone can be anything they want. he's small, he doesn't have any wrestling experience, he doesn't has any connection in wrestling industry. but he made it.

You, Batisteroid, the loser... you're even lower than Zach Gowen or Chris Nowinski. so shut the fuck up.

I will give you any year from Batistas entire career and it will still be better than Miz entire career. Batista has more Good/Great matches than Miz will ever have. He's the biggest draw in the entire PG era. Has the looks, charisma, Mic skills, Badass personality, Larger than life character, good ring skills, great moveset, funny and entertaining, and awesome seller. If it wasn't for his age he will still be the face of the company.

If you're asking what moveset, well watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zre5Y5CXcSI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VITzZsyS_KY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_3qN75WLVA

The guy is great. Made it to the top, with his own (improved over the years) ability. His Heel promos were golden, highly entertaining stuff.