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mgman · 09-16-2012, 08:16 PM

How am I trolling if I genuinely believe WWE of today far eclipses the barbaric, minimalistic product that is that attitude era?

I think the padding and emphasis on promos over wrestling really defines what the sport is all about.

bananakin94 · 09-16-2012, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The-Rock-Says

Tyson Kidd has nothing about him. Yes, he's a very good wrestler. But you need more than just that and I can't see much after that in him.

He at least deserves a proper mid card feud going on. We're not preaching for a Main Event run here. But he can get over quickly.

Take Daniel Bryan right when he started in the WWE for example. Great wrestler, blander looking than Tyson was at that time. Mic Skills were average at that point.

Now we have Kidd who's one of the most technically sound wrestlers in the roster, has a decent following because people know he his, due to his Hart family relation and his in-ring skills.

The guy is barely on SD or RAW and he still gets a reaction.
There's no reason to not push him

#PushKofiKingston · 09-16-2012, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bananakin94

He at least deserves a proper mid card feud going on. We're not preaching for a Main Event run here. But he can get over quickly.

Take Daniel Bryan right when he started in the WWE for example. Great wrestler, blander looking than Tyson was at that time. Mic Skills were average at that point.

Now we have Kidd who's one of the most technically sound wrestlers in the roster, has a decent following because people know he his, due to his Hart family relation and his in-ring skills.

The guy is barely on SD or RAW and he still gets a reaction.
There's no reason to not push him

Tyson Kidd gets a reaction?

as99 · 09-16-2012, 10:54 PM

The funny thing about kids saying Bret has no charisma. Bret was incredibly over without saying a word, because his pink shades, style and shoulder shrugging. He definitely was over as fuk. There was a lot of swag there - charisma. Nobody ever has got the #1 spot with little charisma. He definitely had a huge presence every where he went.

Bret was only full blown single matches guy from 91-97. Within that span how much sh*t happened is pretty incredible. Guys like John Cena will main event for another 6 years and accomplish nothing. Your CM Punks, and other half ass talents that have been around longer as single competitors and never have and never will accomplish as much. Only the greatest have massive legacy's after a short while. The Rock, Stone Cold etc.

Shawn Micheals was playing the singles game in his prime as long as Hart and Bret Hart by far was the better of the 2 in terms of being over and money.

How is Bret boring? When he was feuding with Stone Cold was he boring? When he was feuding with Shawn was he boring? Why are these fueds talked about as the greatest.

Benoit was a great wrestler but these guys how memorable were they, the matches and feuds are not talked about what so ever.

Bret delivered more so than Shawn, had he stayed with the WWF even for 3 more years, his legacy would have been even greater. His feuds would have been epic. 1997 was an incredible year in and centered around Bret Hart.

Bret Hart - main event, show stopper, icon, mr.wrestlemania could have easily been his gimmick.

itssoeasy23 · 09-16-2012, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bananakin94

He at least deserves a proper mid card feud going on. We're not preaching for a Main Event run here. But he can get over quickly.

Take Daniel Bryan right when he started in the WWE for example. Great wrestler, blander looking than Tyson was at that time. Mic Skills were average at that point.

Now we have Kidd who's one of the most technically sound wrestlers in the roster, has a decent following because people know he his, due to his Hart family relation and his in-ring skills.

The guy is barely on SD or RAW and he still gets a reaction.
There's no reason to not push him

That's the sole reason why people like him.

Not because of his in-ring skills, or his non-existent charisma, but he was in DA DUNGEON!

TheGreatBanana · 09-16-2012, 10:56 PM

Wasnt there a interview between Daniel Bryan who said Tyson Kidd is one of the most misused talent currently in WWE and also happens to have a great personality in real life but does not translate on screen?

You people are too easy to judge. WWE is so scripted that it barely allows anyone to shine. Take Rocky Maiva, a babyface who got booed, but didn't like the role he was playing, asked Vince if he could be given the mic and we got a legend from it. That was when talent was allowed to shine, not it is not the case. There maybe tons of great stars waiting to burst out with great personalities but are too limited on what they can do and can't really shine.

ShiftyLWO · 09-16-2012, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by as99

The funny thing about kids saying Bret has no charisma. Bret was incredibly over without saying a word, because his pink shades, style and shoulder shrugging. He definitely was over as fuk. There was a lot of swag there - charisma. Nobody ever has got the #1 spot with little charisma. He definitely had a huge presence every where he went.

Bret was only full blown single matches guy from 91-97. Within that span how much sh*t happened is pretty incredible. Guys like John Cena will main event for another 6 years and accomplish nothing. Your CM Punks, and other half ass talents that have been around longer as single competitors and never have and never will accomplish as much. Only the greatest have massive legacy's after a short while. The Rock, Stone Cold etc.

Shawn Micheals was playing the singles game in his prime as long as Hart and Bret Hart by far was the better of the 2 in terms of being over and money.

How is Bret boring? When he was feuding with Stone Cold was he boring? When he was feuding with Shawn was he boring? Why are these fueds talked about as the greatest.

Benoit was a great wrestler but these guys how memorable were they, the matches and feuds are not talked about what so ever.

Bret delivered more so than Shawn, had he stayed with the WWF even for 3 more years, his legacy would have been even greater. His feuds would have been epic. 1997 was an incredible year in and centered around Bret Hart.

Bret Hart - main event, show stopper, icon, mr.wrestlemania could have easily been his gimmick.

very well put.

also i don't get why people like benoit. he was bland as fuck.

oh and he murdered his family.

TheGreatBanana · 09-16-2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by itssoeasy23

That's the sole reason why people like him.

Not because of his in-ring skills, or his non-existent charisma, but he was in DA DUNGEON!

You mean THE FINAL graduate of DA DUNGEON.

Kabraxal · 09-16-2012, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bananakin94

He at least deserves a proper mid card feud going on. We're not preaching for a Main Event run here. But he can get over quickly.

Take Daniel Bryan right when he started in the WWE for example. Great wrestler, blander looking than Tyson was at that time. Mic Skills were average at that point.

Now we have Kidd who's one of the most technically sound wrestlers in the roster, has a decent following because people know he his, due to his Hart family relation and his in-ring skills.

The guy is barely on SD or RAW and he still gets a reaction.
There's no reason to not push him

He isn't 6'5" 250... and he hasn't had quite the response to his burials that Bryan recieved from fans for his firing.

And I am saying this as a fan... quite simply, McMahon doesn't understand what makes a good wrestler. It isn't size... it's character and ability. Give Kidd a character and he'd be one of the best on the roster.

Superior Quality · 09-16-2012, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by apokalypse

Bret talked among other thing but one thing really interesting is about WWE Wasting Talent...

what Bret said is so true...today Product is so PG like back in 80's. Look at Bryan right now, he supposed to be on Main Event and because of Kids he job out to Sheamus on smackdown who is over with kids but with IWC/Non-casual fans find him boring. how many Kids watching WWE these days? i think most money comes from is from IWC/Non-casual where they spent the most and now Buyrates-attendance-ratings decrease...so much for PG.

from what i hear Mark Henry Hall of Pain character suppose to be Brodus Clay who came with that idea but WWE put it on Henry...

This is nothing new, wwe will never go back to pg 13 so at this point I just watch the parts I enjoy( punk and Bryan/Kane) and turn off the rest. Right now because wwe is the walmart of wrestling they can do what they want and there isn't shit we can say about it.