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Old 09-05-2012, 09:33 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Default Re: The Ryback haters are so thick headed.

People who hates Ryback, also most likely hates guys like Warrior, Goldberg, Hulk Hogan, Luger, Scott and Steiner because they are pushed to the moon due to teir size and looks. Especially Hogan, Warrior and Goldberg. But those people are just stupid imo. Wrestling is about over-the-top-characters, and you cannot have just mediocre looking guys like Christopher Daniels that most of the IWC jerks off to on the entire roster. That wont sell. For anyone who are slightly in to marketing, this is the basic A B C steps.

Over the top monsters sell, especially to kids since it is WWE's targeted segment.


I understand why WWE push the guy, and I like it. Because I like watching muscular mosnters destroy people in fast manner. I might be the reason why many of them do steoirds LOL
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:58 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Default Re: The Ryback haters are so thick headed.

I'm still waiting for Wade Barrett to show video of him defeating Ryback on the show NXT, and how he recruited Ryback in to The Nexus, and that Ryback is a fake. He isn't this warrior that he thinks he is, and Wade would definitely have to point out that he hasn't necessarily defeated anyone of high stature outside of a bunch of worthless hacks like Jack Swagger, or Heath Slater. Wade then airs the footage of him giving the Wasteland to Skip Sheffield, and pinning him 1-2-3 for the win. Barrett says that he will end the "Streak", and Ryback. Match, and feud is made. Ryback goes over a credible talent while not losing any steam what so ever.
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:12 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Default Re: The Ryback haters are so thick headed.

Ryback is over, but he's also a terrible wrestler. He gets blown up in 2 minutes and is no where near the caliber of athlete as the guy he's ripping off. His finisher looks pretty crap as well.
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:23 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Ryback is just this year's Goldberg or "insert name" "unstoppable force" "undefeatable" until he actually gets in a match with someone decent at which point he's just another Tensai.

Personally I find him entertaining but then so is Santino, so is the Funkasauras. You don't watch Ryback for wrestling because there isn't any in his matches. You just watch to see if he's going to accidentally hurt someone.
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People who hates Ryback, also most likely hates guys like Warrior, Goldberg, Hulk Hogan, Luger, Scott and Steiner because they are pushed to the moon due to teir size and looks. Especially Hogan, Warrior and Goldberg. But those people are just stupid imo. Wrestling is about over-the-top-characters, and you cannot have just mediocre looking guys like Christopher Daniels that most of the IWC jerks off to on the entire roster. That wont sell. For anyone who are slightly in to marketing, this is the basic A B C steps.

Over the top monsters sell, especially to kids since it is WWE's targeted segment.


I understand why WWE push the guy, and I like it. Because I like watching muscular mosnters destroy people in fast manner. I might be the reason why many of them do steoirds LOL
Christopher Daniels has more charisma and talent his in appletini than ryback in his entire body. If you want wrestling going back instead of going forward good for you, I thought that in 2012 this discussion would be irrelevant but only shows how this business is going backwards every year. Fuck interesting characters and stories, bring more generic rybacks and shove them up their audience throats.

Cena is over! Sheamus is over! Ryback is over! Then why the fuck they need the rock to save their ass now? And before you point at punk and say he's the reason for the bad ratings, judge by the big picture not what happened in 2011-2012.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:22 PM   #76 (permalink)
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People who hates Ryback, also most likely hates guys like Warrior, Goldberg, Hulk Hogan, Luger, Scott and Steiner because they are pushed to the moon due to teir size and looks. Especially Hogan, Warrior and Goldberg. But those people are just stupid imo. Wrestling is about over-the-top-characters, and you cannot have just mediocre looking guys like Christopher Daniels that most of the IWC jerks off to on the entire roster. That wont sell. For anyone who are slightly in to marketing, this is the basic A B C steps.

Over the top monsters sell, especially to kids since it is WWE's targeted segment.


I understand why WWE push the guy, and I like it. Because I like watching muscular mosnters destroy people in fast manner. I might be the reason why many of them do steoirds LOL
Size is pretty much the least important attribute in terms of importance. Notice that you name dropped a bunch of hugely charismatic wrestlers and not the likes of Luther Reigns, Sylvester Terkay, Scott Norton, the Barbarian, Vladimir Kozlov, Ezekial Jackson, Chuck Palumbo and other charismaless big guys?

It remains to be seen where Ryback falls on the charisma scale. The people who blows his reactions out of proportion and are already assuming he's gonna be the next big thing just by going off of squash matches are just as stupid and irratating as the people who act like he's talentless or act like his crowd reactions are fake.
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Default Re: The Ryback haters are so thick headed.

WWE is smart by booking Ryback, not to throw him in to main event straight away. To slowly build him and give him credit. I can actually see him feud with Big Show, Mark Henry and Great Khali before going in to main event with Cena or CM Punk
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Old 09-05-2012, 02:29 PM   #78 (permalink)
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Christopher Daniels has more charisma and talent his in appletini than ryback in his entire body. If you want wrestling going back instead of going forward good for you, I thought that in 2012 this discussion would be irrelevant but only shows how this business is going backwards every year. Fuck interesting characters and stories, bring more generic rybacks and shove them up their audience throats.

Cena is over! Sheamus is over! Ryback is over! Then why the fuck they need the rock to save their ass now? And before you point at punk and say he's the reason for the bad ratings, judge by the big picture not what happened in 2011-2012.

I certanly do not agree with you on Christpher Daniels. I see him as very talented, but that itself does not take you that far on just that. A wrestler need something more than just beeing a guy who can do a triple mounsault of the top of the cage.

Well business has to go backwards a bit, since the attitude era pushed the envelope too far and the audience was just expecting more and more.
People complain about the Triple H and Lesnar match. Me, I think it was a really good match which told a story with interesting believable over the top Characters. Mr Daniel could do more and go longer in the ring, but that does not change the fact that he would never be percieved as a legitimite threat as Lesnar.

And to push vanilla midgets as Kevin Nash said, it is a common fact that bigger and stronger sells more in the long run to the general public. So it would be Stupid of Vince NOT to try to push a guy like Ryback. Sure many of them fails. But so does a lot of the high flyers and pure wrestlers too.
So anyone with some bit of marketing sense in their body know that Bigger is better.

But that does not take away the fact that I do enjoy watching old Rey Misterio, Benoit, Angle, Flair, Bret, HBK matches. But I also like Matches involving Cactus Jack and Big Show. By that I mean, I like a variety in matches and stroylines when watching a PPV.

Sure John Cena is product of the Corporate WWE marketing Machine. But that is how it works in the business world when one tries to produce a new product

The reason WWE do use The Rock is simple, at the peak of Hulkamania, nWo, Attitude era, WWE and WCW used the likes of Mr T, Mike Tyson, Dennis Rodman among others celebrities. It is just about reaching out to a wider audience. I thought you knew that. Yeah the business is down, so how could be better than the Rock to attract more viewers? He is a famous moviestar who knows the business, is super charismatic, and can still go.

Nah I am not blaming Punk for the bad ratings, the world economy is down so id do affect WWE, yet they make profit. I soley dont blame a wrestler for failing, it is how much WWE is behind your back too. Heck, I like Punk, just because I defend the muscular guys does not mean I hate the smaller guys. Hope you get that.

Yes I namedropped Warrior, Hogan and Goldberg due to he fact that they tend to get the same chritisism from what I've seen over the years.
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