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Old 05-15-2012, 01:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Vince and thus WWE is far right conservative replublican, but they don't mind partnerships with GLAAD and things like that for extra money. The fans and performers seem to be more Democrat or left liberal.
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Old 05-15-2012, 01:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The McMahons are huge republicans thus why Linda is running for senate for the party. I really dont care what political happenings occur within WWE.
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Old 05-15-2012, 02:00 PM   #13 (permalink)
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HLA, necrophilia, man on woman violence, father on daughter violence etc lol.
Sounds like bussiness as usual at the Gingrich mansion.
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Old 05-15-2012, 02:12 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Given CM punks recent comments towards a conservative on twitter about Gay marriage and past comments we know he is a fairly militant aggressive left winger.
Not necessarily. According to most classical theoreticians in politology, a true right-wing means not giving a fuck what others do as long as they don't harm anyone. However things got messed up by certain groups an now we have idiots who believe that Adolf Hitler was right-wing.
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Old 05-15-2012, 02:21 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Not necessarily. According to most classical theoreticians in politology, a true right-wing means not giving a fuck what others do as long as they don't harm anyone. However things got messed up by certain groups an now we have idiots who believe that Adolf Hitler was right-wing.
Then by the same "been there in some form" meaningless standard, zoroastrianism, astrology, centralized authoritarian government in China and Egypt, and pretty much any tribal structure anywhere that still exists are also the same thing they have always been? Hitlers and Perons and schisms and land wars jaw-dropping reversals of doctrine aren't the exception in the history of the thing you now call right wing, they're the rule, and if that means 'same basic thing' to you, then it doesn't mean anything at all.
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Old 05-15-2012, 03:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Vince and thus WWE is far right conservative replublican, but they don't mind partnerships with GLAAD and things like that for extra money. The fans and performers seem to be more Democrat or left liberal.
Nonsense. You clearly have no idea what "far right" is.

Wrestlers tend to have a strong libertarian/conservative streak because they are independent contractors. You see the same phenomenon with truckers. Being independent contractors means you pay all the taxes yourself, as opposed to being an employee where a lot of the taxes are taken out before you get your paycheck.

As to the fanbase, it's a wide enough swath of American that's it fairly evenly split. The demographics of WWE fans is that the average income is somewhat below average.

What they aren't is left-liberal. The "progressives" and leftists in America are the most anti-pro wrestling demographic in this country and tend to come from the wealthiest classes.

NASCAR also has a fanbase that is somewhat below average in income.

You'd have to break down the data more. Blacks in America are 90-95% democrat. But often are socially conservative while being for a larger welfare state and more redistribution.

Poorer whites used to be a huge Democrat voting bloc but in recent decades middle and lower income whites have been trending more Republican.

Any fanbase that is large enough won't be much different than America as whole

America is split fairly evenly 40-40-20 - 40% Repub, 40% Dem, 20% independent. But ideologically it's still a center-right nation. 40% identify as conservative, 40% as moderate, and only 20% as liberal.

Of course these definitions change from region to region. A liberal in Georgia is not the same thing as a liberal in NYC.

The idea of Republicans being the party of the rich isn't supported by the data. The richest parts of America are places like NYC, LA, San Francisco, Seattle, etc -- which are also the most liberal. Obama got more Wall Street donations than any candidate in the history of America.
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You'd think WWE would be conservative but Vince McMahon is FAR too obssessed with being respected by the Hollywood liberal mainstream. Most conservatives from what I've seen don't care about being accepted by liberals.

WWE I beleive is fiscally right-wing and socially left-wing.
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It doesn't really fucking matter either way.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:16 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Nonsense. You clearly have no idea what "far right" is.

Wrestlers tend to have a strong libertarian/conservative streak because they are independent contractors. You see the same phenomenon with truckers. Being independent contractors means you pay all the taxes yourself, as opposed to being an employee where a lot of the taxes are taken out before you get your paycheck.

As to the fanbase, it's a wide enough swath of American that's it fairly evenly split. The demographics of WWE fans is that the average income is somewhat below average.

What they aren't is left-liberal. The "progressives" and leftists in America are the most anti-pro wrestling demographic in this country and tend to come from the wealthiest classes.

NASCAR also has a fanbase that is somewhat below average in income.

You'd have to break down the data more. Blacks in America are 90-95% democrat. But often are socially conservative while being for a larger welfare state and more redistribution.

Poorer whites used to be a huge Democrat voting bloc but in recent decades middle and lower income whites have been trending more Republican.

Any fanbase that is large enough won't be much different than America as whole

America is split fairly evenly 40-40-20 - 40% Repub, 40% Dem, 20% independent. But ideologically it's still a center-right nation. 40% identify as conservative, 40% as moderate, and only 20% as liberal.

Of course these definitions change from region to region. A liberal in Georgia is not the same thing as a liberal in NYC.

The idea of Republicans being the party of the rich isn't supported by the data. The richest parts of America are places like NYC, LA, San Francisco, Seattle, etc -- which are also the most liberal. Obama got more Wall Street donations than any candidate in the history of America.
Excellent post that explains a lot: I've noticed that - for good or for bad - the wrestling industry is a lot more conservative in general compared to most other forms of entertainment (another would be country music), and these things don't happen by coincidence - I've been curious about exactly why but to no avail as these threads usually end in either "It doesn't matter" or just some ideological war which doesn't actually have anything to do with the question at hand.

Anyway, we all have our own political opinions, but nobody can deny that politics divides people and often causes unnecessary friction, which is why I'd much prefer if WWE (and indeed any wrestling promotion) kept well away from politics - all too often they've fallen into parodying or taking advantage of political unrest or scandal, and it will inevitably anger a large portion of the viewership.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:19 PM   #20 (permalink)
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It's fine here.

They often show WWE people at Republican Conventions on TV
IIRC they had a few at the Democratic side at the last election for their whole Smackdown the Vote campaign. I'd say their pretty neutral.
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