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#142 ·
Bret Hitman Hart: The Best There Is, The Best There Was, The Best There Ever Will Be

Disc One
Hart Foundation vs. British Bulldogs - ***
Hart Foundation vs. Killer Bees - *** 1/2

Disc Two
Bret Hart vs. Ricky Streamboat - ****
Bret Hart vs. Ted DiBiase - **** (Ted DiBiase DVD Please)
Hart Foundation vs. Rockers - ***3/4
Hart Foundation vs. Nasty Boys - ***
Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect (Summerslam) - ****3/4
Bret Hart vs. British Bulldog (Summerslam) - ****3/4
Bret Hart vs. Bam Bam Bigelow - ***1/2
Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect (King of the Ring) - *****
Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (WrestleMania) - *****

Disc Three
Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart - ****
Bret Hart vs Hakushi - ***
Bret Hart vs. Diesel - ****3/4 (Kevin Nash/Diesel DVD Please)
Bret Hart vs. British Bulldog (In Your House) - *****
Bret Hart vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin - ****3/4
Bret Hart vs. Undertaker - ****3/4
Bret Hart vs. Chris Benoit - ****1/2

Good lord, what a DVD set. I've never been a fan of Bret Hart but after watching this, he has my support. The documentary is brilliant but the matches, Jesus Christ they are great. Three ***** matches, Four ****3/4 matches and some ****1/2/****, you can't go wrong. The average match on this is well above ****. This set also reminded me how good DiBiase & Kevin Nash were and sets for both men would be a dead set buy from me. Great set and anyone who doesn't own it and has avoided it for so long like I had should get their hands on it ASAP. Only £7.99 on SilverVision.co.uk
 
#143 ·
Bret Hitman Hart: The Best There Is, The Best There Was, The Best There Ever Will Be

Disc One
Hart Foundation vs. British Bulldogs - ***
Hart Foundation vs. Killer Bees - *** 1/2

Disc Two
Bret Hart vs. Ricky Streamboat - ****
Bret Hart vs. Ted DiBiase - **** (Ted DiBiase DVD Please)
Hart Foundation vs. Rockers - ***3/4
Hart Foundation vs. Nasty Boys - ***
Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect (Summerslam) - ****3/4
Bret Hart vs. British Bulldog (Summerslam) - ****3/4
Bret Hart vs. Bam Bam Bigelow - ***1/2
Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect (King of the Ring) - *****
Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (WrestleMania) - *****

Disc Three
Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart - ****
Bret Hart vs Hakushi - ***
Bret Hart vs. Diesel - ****3/4 (Kevin Nash/Diesel DVD Please)
Bret Hart vs. British Bulldog (In Your House) - *****
Bret Hart vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin - ****3/4
Bret Hart vs. Undertaker - ****3/4
Bret Hart vs. Chris Benoit - ****1/2

Good lord, what a DVD set. I've never been a fan of Bret Hart but after watching this, he has my support. The documentary is brilliant but the matches, Jesus Christ they are great. Three ***** matches, Four ****3/4 matches and some ****1/2/****, you can't go wrong. The average match on this is well above ****. This set also reminded me how good DiBiase & Kevin Nash were and sets for both men would be a dead set buy from me. Great set and anyone who doesn't own it and has avoided it for so long like I had should get their hands on it ASAP. Only £7.99 on SilverVision.co.uk
I've kinda gone down on Bret in the last couple of years, but I still love his DVD set. While I'd much rather watch a mid-card or tag match with say, Dustin Rhodes, I still adore the majority of Bret's "big" matches, most of which are on this set.

As for the bolded part... why the hell would you want a Nash set? :p Any good matches from the guy are already on DVD... plus I'm not sure they'd want to release just ONE disc for a superstar these days (not counting the ones they have been known to do for the likes of Morrison who've barely had a career...), and one disc is all they need for Nash lol.
 
#144 ·
I've kinda gone down on Bret in the last couple of years, but I still love his DVD set. While I'd much rather watch a mid-card or tag match with say, Dustin Rhodes, I still adore the majority of Bret's "big" matches, most of which are on this set.

As for the bolded part... why the hell would you want a Nash set? :p Any good matches from the guy are already on DVD... plus I'm not sure they'd want to release just ONE disc for a superstar these days (not counting the ones they have been known to do for the likes of Morrison who've barely had a career...), and one disc is all they need for Nash lol.
You sick fuck.
 
#147 ·
Bret Hart still holds up as one of the best wrestlers ever. Even though I don't enjoy his matches THAT MUCH nowadays, I can't deny his work was brilliant.
 
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You sick fuck.
Hey now, don't make me ban you. I have the power on here now too :p.

Also, your WCW list has fucked up the poll completely. You and your crazy opinions!

But at least you actually dated everything, makes things so much easier... :).

Edit: totally confused you with sterling :lmao.

Once I'm done polling shit up, I might just like, watch something for the hell of it. Not because I plan on adding it to a list or whatever, but for... what's that word... fun? Yeah, fun. Though most of the stuff I watched for the poll wasn't exactly a pain to watch... I just had about 150 matches to sit through in the space of a month because I'm lazy :p.

Huh, seems like this convo should have taken place elsewhere. Ah well. Random rating:

The Undertaker Vs Ric Flair – House Show 10/09/1992 - **1/2
 
#152 ·
I was about to say Crossface would definitely have been a dark horse in the WCW poll given he's barely posted in months, no doubt Sterling put Dustin/Vader 1994 top 5.....


And I'll love him for that :mark: :mark: :mark:


Also yeah, I'm not really a fan of Bret at all thesedays, some of his best matches still hold up well (though I'm definitely not as big a fan of the Owen matches or Davey Boy matches as some), Austin stuff is all marvellous though and I dug ONO v Taker the last time I saw it. That being said I'd still rank someone like Dustin Rhodes or Arn Anderson ahead of him on a GOAT poll, they may not have been given the time and opportunity to wrestle some of the matches Bret has, but I'll be damned if they've ever given notably bad performances or ever made me bored/apathetic to watching them.
 
#153 ·
Arn was better, yes, but Dustin? No way, man. Dustin was good, really good sometimes, but cannot be compared to Bret Hart. Dustin's WCW years are really underrated sometimes, but putting them ahead of Bret's work is science-fiction, IMO.

Arn Anderson, on the other hand, yes - better than Bret Hart.
 
#154 ·
What is the general consensus for the SS 1996 match between Bret and Austin? I'm not that high on the match. It's good, but nowhere near their war at WrestleMania.

Sticking with Bret, I adore his matches with Davey Boy--both of them. I'm higher on the SummerSlam 1992 match than most and I'd take it easily above the Hart brothers' match at 'Mania X.
 
#156 ·
Better seller, better babyface, incredibly charismatic, better offence etc etc I really think Dustin belongs in the discussion for top 20 US workers of all time, and whilst I have him far below Flair, Steamboat,Hansen, Lawler, Funk and Eddie etc I think he's just as worthy as someone like Mysterio, Bret, Austin, Murdoch, Slaughter etc in the tier pushing to get from the top 15 into the top 10.

He was incredibly smooth in the ring and looked like a pro wrestler, was a marvellous FIP who knew how to inject crowds with his charisma and get himself over like Steamboat, Morton, Sting and others did in the same time, he's got some stellar performances and matches and is still a very good worker today even if he gets piss poor time to show it.

Bret's best match is better than Dustin's but bar Bret's 1994 I'd say Dustin from 1990-1994 for the most part could stack up against a lot of guys as far as peak runs go, he was one of the company's aces during their prime and when competition there comes from Arn, Rude, Steamboat, Vader, Flair, Eaton, Zbyszko, Morton, Windham, Austin etc you know the guy was something special. I much prefer him as a babyface worker than Bret and think with the right push he could have been a real force in the territories as a plucky babyface champion, he's just got so much going for him compared to Bret these days that I can't rank Bret ahead of him.

Arn is just the BOSS (well except for Springsteen), that should be common knowledge by now.
 
#157 ·
I think Bret/Austin SS 1996 was a great match, but not a MOTYC or GOAT. It was simply a great match with great storytelling and strategies, but people overrate it more than sometimes. My rating: ***1/2
 
#158 ·
What is the general consensus for the SS 1996 match between Bret and Austin? I'm not that high on the match. It's good, but nowhere near their war at WrestleMania.

Sticking with Bret, I adore his matches with Davey Boy--both of them. I'm higher on the SummerSlam 1992 match than most and I'd take it easily above the Hart brothers' match at 'Mania X.
I prefer the SS match between Bret and Austin to WM, but only ever so slightly. Too COMPLETELY different matches, and it says a lot about them as performers that they can have 2 ***** (imo of course) matches during the same feud and tell 2 stories that are perhaps more different than any 2 matches between any 2 wrestlers in a series of matches.

As for Bret/Davey, I don't think too much to their matches. WM X with Owen is worlds above any Bret/Davey match for me. Don't like their cage match though. Urgh.
 
#159 · (Edited)
Yeah I've not seen SS 1996 in a while but I was a fan of it last time around, though its a step step down from Wrestlemania 13. I seem to remember Cal or Yeah1993 being a big fan of (or at the very least discussing) an Austin/Bret match from Africa I believe, unless I've got the participants wrong but I'm 99% sure its those two.

Canadian Stampede 10 man also kicks all sorts of ass, and whilst we're on the matter of great multi mans the February 2000 10 man tag from Dallas featuring Cactus/Rock/Too Cool v HHH and The Radicalz also needs more love. An insane segment/match with an unbelieveable crowd which is honestly one of the best tv matches the company has put on IMO.
 
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