[JOAL.com]

No Mercy 2006 was pretty good

[TJChurch]

Originally Posted by redeadening

I dont see how anyone can dislike Taker

The man's effort, dedication, and physical and mental conditioning is some of the finest in wrestling history

I likewise don't see how people can like him... Perhaps some of his past matches, but not him as he is now.

Effort & dedication? No denying.

Mental? I don't see how any fan can know that.

As for his physical conditioning,... HA! Much the way he wore that hood & showed the hair-cutting videos for the weeks leading up to 'Mania, I wish he would admit it is not someone else at the company that is the reason he only wrestles about once every year. (That's one of the reasons I don't get "The Streak"... Being undefeated for a while, the way many WWE stars begin, is impressive, but not in one event every year, especially if/when it's the only match you have, & against stars you've faced & beaten before.)

[BGLWrestlingGod]

WWF WrestleMania X8

IC Title: William Regal vs. Rob Van Dam - ***

European Title: Diamond Dallas Page vs. Christian - **3/4

Hardcore Title: Maven vs. Goldust - *3/4

Kane vs. Kurt Angle - ***

No Disqualification: Ric Flair vs. The Undertaker - ***1/2

Edge vs. Booker T - **3/4

Stone Cold vs. Scott Hall - **3/4

Tag Titles: Billy & Chuck vs. The Hardys vs. The Dudleys vs. The APA - ***

The Rock vs. Hollywood Hulk Hogan - ***1/2

Women’s Title: Jazz vs. Trish Stratus vs. Lita - **1/4

Undisputed Title: Chris Jericho vs. Triple H - ***1/4


This show always leaves me conflicted. Was it the ultimate WWF vs. WCW confrontation? No. The epic end to the alliance storyline? No. Was it a great WrestleMania? Maybe. A good WrestleMania, and a good PPV? Absolutely.

Don't get me wrong, the show is a bit of a mess. Given the massive roster at the time, WWF could have come up with a card as good as, if not better than, WM X7. Instead, they opted for some very awkward pairings: DPP in the lower card, Kurt Angle vs. Kane, instead of Mr. Perfect, Undertaker squashing Ric Flair, Booker T and Edge fighting over a shampoo endorsement, Steve Austin against...Scott Hall, and the first undisputed champ ever playing second fiddle to Stephanie McMahon, not to mention the backwards booking of Triple H winning the title from a superstar new to the main event in Jericho.

That aside, the match quality is quite good. Regal/RVD is a perfect opener: short and sweet, a great clash of styles, very crisp, Angle/Kane is better than I remember, Flair/UT is a very good weapons brawl, Edge/Booker is a nice little spring, Austin/Hall, while not the classic it could have been (I'm sure I would have been pissed watching it live), is still a blast (best stunner ever), Rock/Hogan is an instant classic, and this may be the first time I ever actually enjoyed Y2J/HHH.

Rock/Hogan was the featured attraction and shouldn't have gone on last. Y2J/HHH had a great steph bump at the beginning, Y2J working on HHH's leg and then HHH trying to do the same, a good table spot, the crowd going nuts for HHH pedigreeing Steph, a sick chairshot, and an interesting counter for the finish. I do feel like it ended as soon as it started to get good (much like WM XXVIII, but it still had a nice ending.

How much you enjoy this show really depends on how you look at it. It's not what it could have been, nor as great as it should have been, but still tremendously entertaining.

[JuviJuiceIsLoose]

Originally Posted by PGSucks

What do you guys think was the best brand exclusive PPV for each brand? I'd go Vengeance 2005 (RAW) and Vengeance 2003 (Smackdown).

Vengeance 2003 is one of my favorite shows of all-time.

Great Opener
Great Main Event
Nice little match between Taker and Cena.

I fucking LOVE the WGTT vs Filthy Animals match!

Honestly, it's in my top 10 Tag Matches of all-time. Just fucking fantastic!

[JOAL.com]

Originally Posted by TJChurch

I likewise don't see how people can like him... Perhaps some of his past matches, but not him as he is now.

Effort & dedication? No denying.

Mental? I don't see how any fan can know that.

As for his physical conditioning,... HA! Much the way he wore that hood & showed the hair-cutting videos for the weeks leading up to 'Mania, I wish he would admit it is not someone else at the company that is the reason he only wrestles about once every year. (That's one of the reasons I don't get "The Streak"... Being undefeated for a while, the way many WWE stars begin, is impressive, but not in one event every year, especially if/when it's the only match you have, & against stars you've faced & beaten before.)

Well, what would you prefer, a series of mediocre matches or one genuinely epic match?

And by conditioning, i was referring to how his fitness. To maintain peak physical ability until the age of 40 and consistently getting better and stronger as he aged is unbelievable

In 2007, he was better than he was in the 90s and majority of the 2000s. He's the man

[Mr.Limelight]

Originally Posted by PGSucks

What do you guys think was the best brand exclusive PPV for each brand? I'd go Vengeance 2005 (RAW) and Vengeance 2003 (Smackdown).

For Raw,

1) Unforgiven 2006
2) Vengeance 2005
3) Backlash 2004

For SmackDown,

1) Armageddon 2006
2) No Way Out 2006
3) Vengeance 2003

Raws PPV's were awful in 03, Smackdowns PPV's were awful in 04. 06 and 05 was a great great year for B PPV's, it seemed like WWE found the right formula for creating good shows with half the roster.

[morris3333]

WWE will be releasing a Zack Ryder DVD release, priced at $9.99 on 7/10. They are also working on a 7/24 DVD and Blu-Ray release looking at The Undertaker's Wrestlemania streak. There are already plans for a Brock Lesnar set as well.

from : http://pwinsider.com/article/67484/l...-news.html?p=1

[Fenice]

Will definitely buy the Lesnar one. I know the Zack Ryder DVD will make them money but it still comes off so odd.

[heyman deciple]

I fail to see the point of a Ryder DVD at this point, they've only been booking him as more than a Jobber for about 6 months.

Now fast tracking a Daniel Bryan DVD titled YES! I'd have interest in that.

You could chronicle his NXT experience, his Michael Cole feud, his firing, his return, his feud with The Miz, some of his SD matches with Cody Rhodes, Ted Dibiase, and Sin Cara.

His MITB win, his near cash in with Mark Henry, his actual cash in, some of his segments with AJ.

Plus a documentry could be nice possibly focusing on Shawn Michaels "training" him, his coming up through the indies with Punk, with mentor'ed relationship with William Regal.

[doinktheclowns]

What on earth are they going to put on a Zach Ryder DVD, he has hardly done anything.

There are plenty of guys on the roster that have achieved far more over a greater period of time that dont have DVDs.

Christian, CM Punk, Sheamus,