[Big Z]

Originally Posted by dxbender

For people who got attitude dvd, how was it? Was it worth the amount you paid(I see it selling for $25). It does have WWF in it right(like no blurred out logos)? And it doesn't censor stuff like weapon shots,blood or anything?

Documentary is under an hour long, so everyone is disappointed with that. Hardly anything censored though which is good. All depends on how much you are interested in the match listings as to whether or not you should get it tbh.

[dxbender]

Originally Posted by KingCal

Documentary is under an hour long, so everyone is disappointed with that. Hardly anything censored though which is good. All depends on how much you are interested in the match listings as to whether or not you should get it tbh.

Based on what's on each disc, I think disc 1 is only thing I'm interested in(which I think is just documentary). Which I can prob find online somewhere

[sharkboy22]

Just watched Bobby Lashley vs John Cena GAB 2007 for the first time and holy crap that match was BEAST!

Cena really proved himself during his '06-'07 reign. It's just so unfortunate that instead of the getting the recognition he truly deserved, it's the years when hating Cena became the popular thing to do. Seriously, which other wrestler had the work ethic like John Cena did back in 2007? Talk about the main guy. The guy to get the job done. The guy that never disappointed. The guy who freaking delivered PPV after PPV yet for some reason wrestling fans saw it as a reason to boo?

Cena is by far the best damn worker in the company. Yes most would say Punk or Bryan but when it comes to psychology Cena has them beat by far. The edge Cena has over everyone on the WWE roster is his timing. He just knows when to do things. He just knows when it's the right moment to leg trip a guy for the STF, go in for AA. Cena is just an incredible worker and this match is just another example of it. Definitely one of the most underrated/under appreciated wrestler amongst the IWC.

[Choke2Death]

Originally Posted by sharkboy22

Just watched Bobby Lashley vs John Cena GAB 2007 for the first time and holy crap that match was BEAST!

Cena really proved himself during his '06-'07 reign. It's just so unfortunate that instead of the getting the recognition he truly deserved, it's the years when hating Cena became the popular thing to do. Seriously, which other wrestler had the work ethic like John Cena did back in 2007? Talk about the main guy. The guy to get the job done. The guy that never disappointed. The guy who freaking delivered PPV after PPV yet for some reason wrestling fans saw it as a reason to boo?

Cena is by far the best damn worker in the company. Yes most would say Punk or Bryan but when it comes to psychology Cena has them beat by far. The edge Cena has over everyone on the WWE roster is his timing. He just knows when to do things. He just knows when it's the right moment to leg trip a guy for the STF, go in for AA. Cena is just an incredible worker and this match is just another example of it. Definitely one of the most underrated/under appreciated wrestler amongst the IWC.

Well said. But again... ITZ ALL ABT MOVEZZ!!!!!!1111!!1

Vince officially burned the bridges between Cena and the smarks when he continued to push him as hard as before when they started booing so since then, he's become the public enemy #1 with the hardcore fans. Although I must say that the hate has been toned down in the last couple of years and some are starting to recognize what a talent he truly is.

[Yeah1993]

Cena not being a good wrestler (which is obviously untrue...) hasn't got *that* much to do with it, I think. It's mostly the fact they find him outright annoying, which is something I understand. Honestly I never want to see Cena pick up a microphone because I don't like his promos and never have.

[Clique]

Cena proved himself the big PPV matches as he usually does these last several years. The problem is the other weeks of TV where he is either very boring or frustrating to watch. As a TV viewer and WWE I feel he deserve the criticism for the crap every week (yes I understand booking/McMahon have a hand in it too) just as much as matches like he's had with Michaels, Lesnar, Umaga, Punk, etc. That's just my opinion, though.

[The Hardcore Show]

Originally Posted by Choke2Death

Well said. But again... ITZ ALL ABT MOVEZZ!!!!!!1111!!1

Vince officially burned the bridges between Cena and the smarks when he continued to push him as hard as before when they started booing so since then, he's become the public enemy #1 with the hardcore fans. Although I must say that the hate has been toned down in the last couple of years and some are starting to recognize what a talent he truly is.

Cena has always been a very good talent but in terms of making people care about what he does 80% of the time he fails at that.

[Starbuck]

Cena's booking is what makes people hate him and I completely understand, even as a huge mark for the guy. Holy fuck it just gets so redundant that even I get sick of him some times. He wasn't really any good in the ring until 06/07 though. That much I accept. But he more than proved himself during that time and for anybody to say he can't work now is a joke truth be told. Put John Cena in a big match situation and 9 times out of 10 he will deliver. While the hate has died down in recent years, I still think he's criminally underrated by a lot of folks, mostly idiotic haters who still think HE CNT WRASSLE DURR. Other people simply don't like him, including some folks who post in here and that's perfectly fine because there is sound reasoning behind it. I swear if that heel turn ever happens this place and every smark alive will be all over his dick and proclaiming him the best thing ever. Watch it happen lol. Bunch of bandwagoners.

EDIT - Btw, the Best of PPV 2011 Blu-Ray just went on sale on SilverVision for £10.99 for those of you who were waiting for it to come down like me lol. Ordered it along with Definitive Ric Flair Collection for £6.99 finally.

[Matt_Yoda]

I got to respectfully disagree with Starbuck, I enjoyed Cena's matches in 2003, Namely Taker @Vengeance and Angle @No Mercy. Had a decent 2004 then bounced back in 05 with Angle @NWO and JBL @Judgment Day. I can't really recall a moment that Cena was just outright horrid in the ring, even in 06 and 08 where I was most critical of his booking.
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WWE Superstars Inaugural Episode (4/16/2009)

Undertaker vs. Matt Hardy- ***
Christian vs. Finlay- **1/4
Cody Rhodes vs. Shane McMahon- *1/2

[Starbuck]

He wasn't atrocious or anything and he did have the odd gem from 03-05. I meant that he didn't hit his stride and start pulling out great matches every month until around 06/07, funnily enough, when his character started going to shit lol.