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Old 12-02-2012, 10:24 AM   #9761 (permalink)
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I was going through my logs and my ratings as of late and I wanted to beg the question ; who is the greatest big match performer ever ? When I say big-match performer I'm talking about Wrestlemania's, Summerslam's, Survivor Series's, Royal Rumble's , and any PPV/TV event that had a match with huge expectations.

As much shit as he gets from me and everyone else here, it GOTTA be Shawn. Here's his credentials (and a list of all of his ****+ matches on the big four) when it comes to big match experience ;

- BIG MOTHAFUCKIN' SS 88 TAG
- RR 91 vs Orient Express
- WM X vs Razor Ramon (1st Televised WWE Ladder Match)
- SS 95 vs Razor Ramon (Considered by some as better than the 1st)
- SS 96 vs Vader
- SS 96 vs SID
- 1st HIAC vs Undertaker (and GOAT Match)
- SS 97 vs Bret
- RR 98 vs Taker
- SS 02 vs HHH (#11 on my GOAT list)
- 1st Elimination Chamber
- WM XIX vs Jericho
- SS 03 vs Team Bischoff
- WM XX vs Benoit vs HHH (# 8)
- WM XXI vs Kurt Angle
- SS 05 vs Team Smackdown
- WM XXII vs Vince Mcmahon (Love this ishhh)
- WM XXIII vs John Cena
- SS 07 vs Randy Orton
- WM XXIV vs Ric Flair
- WM XXV vs Taker (#3)
- SS 09 vs Legacy
- SS 09 vs HHH vs Cena
- WM XXVI vs Taker (#5)

When I look at Shawn, I see a guy who has more ***** than anybody else in the WWE but a guy who isn't the GOAT... Can somebody make sense of this for me ?

BTW, Cena-Lesnar is 10th of my GOAT matches list
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:27 AM   #9762 (permalink)
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I'm just sick of special ref stipulations , its all the same.

Wrestler hits a move , reaction shot of ref. Rinse and repeat.
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I'm guessing that I'm one of the few who prefers Punk/Jericho ER over their match at Mania. Their Mania match just didn't make sense. The first half was Jericho trying to get Punk to do some shit to get himself disqualified, then out of nowhere they said "Fuck it, let's just wrestle" and dropped the entire thing completely.
I preferred the Chicago Street Fight to the WrestleMania match. I still need to watch Extreme Rules from a TV perspective. That may or may not change my feelings on the match opposed to when I viewed the shows live in attendance.
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Old 12-02-2012, 11:02 AM   #9764 (permalink)
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I guess I'm the only one who thinks Lesnar/Cena is "just" very good, but not great or GOATesque. Sure, it was pretty innovative, brutal and shocking for WWE, the storytelling was damn fine, selling too, but something, I can't really put my finger onto it, something prevents that match from the "great match" label, IMO. Two ref bumps really irked me.
I do think it's a great match, but I too feel it's very overrated around here. It's brutal, and a fun match to watch with Cena getting destroyed, as well as showing Lesnar for the monster he is. But I didn't get much out of it except that. The ending still blows imo (though it's not as terrible as some make it out), and while the brutality keeps the interest high, the pace and sequences don't keep me interested. Plus I haven't really had any desire to watch the match again since the last time I saw it 6 or so months ago. I don't get how someone could put it amongst the greatest of all time, but this isn't the only match in the last few years I feel that way about. It's the same thing with Taker/HHH WM27, Taker/HHH WM28, and Lesnar/HHH SS (although the last one isn't quite as bad).

As far as the Punk/Jericho matches go, I 100% go with the WM match over the ER match. ER was a great match, WM was a damn-near, if not a classic contest. Excellent wrestling, psychology, and some storytelling thrown into the mix, not to mention it feeling like a Wrestlemania quality championship match in regards to the two self-proclaimed "Best in the Worlds" going at it at a top level for the top prize in the business. Love the match and it's easily MOTN and second best MOTY imo.
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Old 12-02-2012, 11:15 AM   #9765 (permalink)
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Punk-Jericho is one of the shining examples that storytelling is still prevalent in today's wrestling. It's one of those "measuring stick" matches in all honesty, because if you want to know what somebody's taste in wrestling is , just ask them what they believe is better ; Rock/Cena or Punk/Jericho.

The DQ stipulation was wonderfully done and the match had me on the edge of my seat the entire time. When it comes to WWE Championship matches at Wrestlemania, I'd have it just below Austin-Rock and Flair-Savage as the third greatest WWE Championship match in Wrestlemania history. Alot of people may not feel as strongly about it as I do, but I believe it's better than the end of an era Cell match because of it's subtle storytelling being superior to the HIAC's "in-your-face" type story.
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Subtly is great especially with Punk's matches with Jericho and Bryan where they add a lot of little notes throughout the match but what Taker/HHH/Michaels did in Hell in a Cell trumps everything I've seen as far as storytelling goes imo. That match was mainly all about story then brutality. Punk/Jericho had the best wrestling match at WM28, one of the best this year in fact but End Of An Era is a totally different beast. Some may even call it more of an experience, an epic encounter, a the brutal finality of an incredible story arc over just a wrestling match. It's the Match Of The Year for me.
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Randy Orton vs Chris Benoit (Smackdown 18-8-2005)

Before heading into SummerSlam, this match is the official go-home towards the biggest show of the summer and is a rematch in Toronto from 2004's SummerSlam. I remember watching it a long time ago but on a rewatch, I consider it even better than the first watch. Just smartly worked and Orton does a great job as the man that dominates most of it. From the slow first couple of minutes to him getting a bit more desperate after that thumb to the eye, the numerous clubbing blows to the chest and the Spike DDT, Orton is so good at playing the heel. I also liked how he dealt with the Gutwrench Neckbreaker botch here. He tries it twice but is unable to slam Benoit so instead of making them both look stupid, he puts on an arrogant smirk and simply gives Benoit a regular DDT. After building momentum and hitting his Rolling Germans as well as the Diving Headbutt, Benoit has to deal with Orlando Jordan's distraction which gives Orton enough time to hit the RKO for the victory. These two have unreal chemistry together and what's funny is that this might be one of their weaker matches. ****

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I have to ask, did Benoit ever beat Orton post SS04?
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I have to ask, did Benoit ever beat Orton post SS04?
No Holds Barred match at SD 27/1/2006. If you count DQ, he also beat him in all but one of the Best of 7 series where Orton filled in for Booker T.
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^Ah, I do remember the best of 7 stuff and how the first couple of matches Benoit beat Orton by DQ. I also know in a tag match in 04 I think a couple months before SS of some kind (think it was elimination) Benoit made Orton tap. But yeah, it always felt like Orton had Benoit's number. Much like how it felt like Benoit always had HHH's number... and HHH always had Orton's number. Hmmm...
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