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Old 12-02-2012, 09:37 AM   #9751 (permalink)
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It made no sense how a guy can get his ass kicked/demolished, then come back and win in the last few minutes. The booking for Cena/Lesnar was awful, but that shouldn't really be surprising. They killed off any momentum Brock had (and he had a good amount coming into this match). It's almost as if the booking is catered to 8 year old kids...oh wait.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:39 AM   #9752 (permalink)
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Wait... Maybe I read wrong, but Austin vs. HHH 3SOH is on the level of Bryan/Punk/AJ love triangle crap here?
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:41 AM   #9753 (permalink)
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Wait... Maybe I read wrong, but Austin vs. HHH 3SOH is on the level of Bryan/Punk/AJ love triangle crap here?
I'm asking myself the same..
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:42 AM   #9754 (permalink)
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I'm guessing that I'm one of the few who prefers Punk/Jericho ER over their match at Mania. Their Mania match just didn't make sense. The first half was Jericho trying to get Punk to do some shit to get himself disqualified, then out of nowhere they said "Fuck it, let's just wrestle" and dropped the entire thing completely.

EDIT: Oh God, what did I just read? I'm no fan of Austin/HHH like others but holy shit there's no way the two can be compared. Different match types, different stories, different everything.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:44 AM   #9755 (permalink)
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I'm guessing that I'm one of the few who prefers Punk/Jericho ER over their match at Mania. Their Mania match just didn't make sense. The first half was Jericho trying to get Punk to do some shit to get himself disqualified, then out of nowhere they said "Fuck it, let's just wrestle" and dropped the entire thing completely.
I agree. I would much rather watch their Extreme Rules match over their 'Mania match. Their ER match was so much fun and had so many nice spots.

I've watched that match probably 5 times by now.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:47 AM   #9756 (permalink)
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Ah damn, I didn't compare the two. I said that if Austin/HHH can get criticized (which a few posters on here don't like), then an irrelevant match like Punk/Bryan is not immune to criticism.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:47 AM   #9757 (permalink)
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WM match is far far superior to their ER match imo . ER was pretty boring for the most part. The stuff with Jericho trying to get Punk to DQ himself was thrown in right before the match and was a nice addition. Jericho tried to get Punk angry, but it wasn't working so Jericho had to change his game plan and beat Punk another way. Makes perfect sense.

Punk/Bryan MITB > HHH/Austin 3SOH . And I'm not too high on the MITB match either .
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A three stages of hell match could just never capture my imagination. For crying out loud these two have been going at it for 50 minutes in matches that go about 20 minutes and by the end no one is able to walk.
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:01 AM   #9759 (permalink)
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Nothing wrong with the way in which Cena beat Lesnar (in so far as it being believeable kayfabe wise, cba discussing the booking issue again). Guy got the shit beaten out of him, but was up against a cocky and brutal monster who wanted to hurt him rather than simply win and therefore began to become more of a reckless monster the longer the match went on. Cena as a 10 year veteran being able to to take the beating and just try and stay alive long enough to draw Brock into a mistake made perfect sense and the quick victory was far more believable than Cena having a 3-5 minute comeback where he beats the shit out of Lesnar. He saw an opening, hit him with a steel chain at full force and scored a desperation AA with his last bit of strength. If Eddie can go nearly 15 minutes after cutting an artery and not lose his title, Cena can overcome a Lesnar beating with a quick opening. Its all in the detail and how they get to that finish that makes it work.

Austin/HHH isn't great, heck its barely good. Disjointed, poorly paced, horrendous first fall which makes absolutely no sense and a less than stellar crowd the longer the match goes on. Only thing I can say it excels in is making it feel like a big match during the opening and the finish building to Austin's heel turn at Wrestlemania. Never actually bothered to watch Punk/Bryan MITB. The AJ saga wasn't doing a lot for me and for whatever reason after reading the results I've just never bothered to watch anything from the show aside from Seabs' epic gif of Ziggler's bump over the announce table.

Neither Punk/Jericho match is anything special. Wrestlemania has a good finishing stretch but the bulk of the match disinterests me and the way they toss out the Punk DQ stip and do away with it after 5 minutes feels pointless. Should have been a pure wrestling match with all the personal escalation coming after the match and heading into Extreme Rules. Speaking of the ER match, it just sums up why Jericho should never work a brawl/hardcore match. I remember Punk taking a few great bumps to put over the 'danger' the match should have had and both guys coming in street clothes was a nice touch but it was just too relient on prop weapons for my liking. Stuff with Punk's sister at ringside was cool though.

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Old 12-02-2012, 10:17 AM   #9760 (permalink)
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I guess I'm the only one who thinks Lesnar/Cena is "just" very good, but not great or GOATesque. Sure, it was pretty innovative, brutal and shocking for WWE, the storytelling was damn fine, selling too, but something, I can't really put my finger onto it, something prevents that match from the "great match" label, IMO. Two ref bumps really irked me.
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