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Old 12-02-2012, 01:46 AM   #9741 (permalink)
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Finally watched both Punk/Danielson PPV matches the other day and I didn't dig MITB too much either. I'm as much of a fan of a dominant girl as anybody you'll ever find but the AJ crap just sucked whatever potential that match had to be great. Her getting randomly injured and replaced for a X amount of minutes was confusing and I wasn't into the whole thing. It was like a movie with a shitty script, but with two great actors in CM Punk and Daniel Bryan putting in good performances. The actors couldn't really save the script from being shitty, though, and the whole thing suffered. It wasn't horrible, or bad, or even average, but if I was making a MOTY list I wouldn't consider rating it.
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Old 12-02-2012, 01:56 AM   #9742 (permalink)
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It tops Over the Limit for me. Different style of match for the two to duke it out in. AJ involvement has never even registered with me once during the match. Liked the finish more, etc.

****1/2 for both. The nudge goes to Money in the Bank.
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Old 12-02-2012, 02:02 AM   #9743 (permalink)
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Extreme Rules 2012

Orton/Kane - ***1/2
Brodus/Zig - **
Rhodes/Show - *1/2
Sheamus/Bryan - ****1/2
Ryback/jobbers - DUD
Punk/Jericho - ****1/2
Layla/Bella Twin - DUD
Cena/Lesnar - ****3/4

- Really an amazing show. Ended up bumping up 4 matches.

- Orton/Kane had a nice little old school feel to it with the brawl around the arena. Surprisingly good stuff for a feud that wasn't really anything. Kane has been on this year.

- Bryan/Sheamus is just great. I'm not always a huge fan of Sheamus in the ring but he looked great here. And my god was Bryan good. Man is a genius in the ring and I really liked how they incorporated the falls.

- Punk/Jericho, really, really impressed me on now my 3rd watch. Grew on me a little the first time but I really got drawn into the emotion of the match this time. Some pretty creative spots too, using the tops of the announce tables. Yeah, I know, Punk probably shouldn't have been able to kick out of the 2nd codebreaker but considering he was champ, in an incredibly emotional/heated feud and in his hometown, I can accept it. Elbow drop thru the table OWNED. Jericho was such an epic heel too. Liked how Punk's sister got involved too and they gave them some focus at ringside. Feel good moment when he jumped into the crowd after too. This rating is the same as the WM one for me but I'd still rank the WM one slightly ahead.

- Cena/Lesnar is such a unique match. Felt the blood in the opening minutes really set the pace for what we were going to see. Tons of creative spots with the MMA aspect coming into play, along with the chain. Lesnar going full kamikaze was breathtaking. Cena's selling of the arm was nearly perfect, imo. The finish is fine as far as I'm concerned. Chain shot to the face with Lesnar moving pretty quickly getting blindsided, followed by an AA on the steps...I'll take it. I agree with anyone that says Lesnar SHOULD have won, because there were so many ways Cena's story could have progressed and it makes Lesnar more dominant. But considering that Cena was booked to win, I think they did it 100% correctly.

Hot crowd, great matches, awesome show.
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Brye - the biggest advocate of Punk vs Jericho street fight.

Loved the way you worded the end result to Cena vs Brock. You know Brock winning would have been good, logical, and fitting for Cena's current angle. Only it didn't happen. So the way the match was booked considering the planned result WAS indeed done well. Spot on. 100% agree.
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Old 12-02-2012, 02:36 AM   #9745 (permalink)
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Brye - the biggest advocate of Punk vs Jericho street fight.

Loved the way you worded the end result to Cena vs Brock. You know Brock winning would have been good, logical, and fitting for Cena's current angle. Only it didn't happen. So the way the match was booked considering the planned result WAS indeed done well. Spot on. 100% agree.
It really went up for me on this watch. Lots of really cool sequences I picked up on. Love when Punk essentially goes crazy for a minute or two after Jericho goes after his sister. Jericho going for the GTS to finish the match was a nice touch too. I dunno, thought it all meshed well together.

Exactly. Cena didn't stop selling the arm or anything either. So different than the end result of that Miz/Cena match. The problem lies in the result, not the booking of the result. I still can't get over what could have been if Cena had gone on a losing streak and either turned heel or started having to work his way back up the card, start questioning himself more, etc. I was more interested in where Cena would be going than Brock, tbh, even though that still interested me.

Also can't get over how epic Brock's dive out of the ring was.
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More power to you, I say. I dug the match. Not on par with the WrestleMania bout, but it's still pretty great. I'm at ****.

You have too many people wanting to throw the match away b/c:

a) Cena won
b) Cena won using only "two offensive moves"

Lame. Watch the match, people. It's plain as day that the finish was plenty credible. I won't go into detail since I have so many times already, but it was fine. Cena's downward spiral could have been fantastic. So many things in the world of wrestling could have been though. That was another drop in the bucket.

Brock's dive botch, lolz. That beast is insane. Luckily he didn't destroy his knee to where he couldn't work again.
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Finally watched both Punk/Danielson PPV matches the other day and I didn't dig MITB too much either. I'm as much of a fan of a dominant girl as anybody you'll ever find but the AJ crap just sucked whatever potential that match had to be great. Her getting randomly injured and replaced for a X amount of minutes was confusing and I wasn't into the whole thing. It was like a movie with a shitty script, but with two great actors in CM Punk and Daniel Bryan putting in good performances. The actors couldn't really save the script from being shitty, though, and the whole thing suffered. It wasn't horrible, or bad, or even average, but if I was making a MOTY list I wouldn't consider rating it.
Yeah, true. Such a shitty match, all that AJ Lee stuff made me puke, tbh. It looked like a bad, pretentious Spielberg movie. Rating: * (and I'm being generous)

Their OTL match fucking ruled, though.
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Question about the Best of Nitro Volume II Bluray: is there already a list of content?

And I hope that this segment will be on there as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0CIWm592sI.
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Punk/Bryan at MITB could have been a lot better had they planned it out differently.

I really enjoyed the idea of the spot where AJ brought in the weapon (kendo stick or chair) and put it in the middle of them. But she did this afetr they'd been beating the piss out of each other with weapons already. Had she done that after the two had gone at it on the ground for 10 minutes, showing the technical prowess but with neither man gaining an advantage, I feel it would have worked a lot better. Almost as if AJ knew that if they carried on with the mat wrestling they'd be here for ever, so she decided to change it up a little bit. I also would have preferred if AJ didn't get injured half way through only to return, it added nothing to the story and nothing to the match.

So yeah, had the actually story of the match made sense, I personally feel as if it could have been better than their OTL clash simply due to the character performances from all three involved. But the story was so meaningless, back to front and unentertaining, it drags the match down a hell of a lot and I wouldn't even consider at a MOTYC for the WWE, nevermind a world-wide MOTYC. **1/2 at best, tbh.
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Yeah, true. Such a shitty match, all that AJ Lee stuff made me puke, tbh. It looked like a bad, pretentious Spielberg movie. Rating: * (and I'm being generous)
Glad somebody agrees with me in regards to that pile of shit of a match. I don't know why it's so hard for some to believe that others don't like the match.

If Austin/HHH 3SOH can get criticized here, Punk/Bryan MITB sure as hell can too!
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