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**ShowStopper '97** · 11-30-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by #PaulHeymanGuy

Just watched this and decided to pass it along

Sheamus vs Randy Orton vs Edge vs Chris Jericho vs John Cena vs Wade Barrett (Six Pack Challenge : Night of Champions 2010

We have a pretty big cast here, as the bell rings I'm expecting Jericho to bump around alot here...........AAANNNDDD he's eliminated just like that. REALLY WWE. You take the second best worker in this match and have him eliminated in like a minute, while Borrett stays in the match ? Okay then, whatever. Cena and Orton face off and the announcers play it off as it's the most epic thing ever (spoiler ; it's not) , although they do have a pretty memorable exchange. IT'S FINISHERS GALORE HERE as there's counters and finishers and counters and finishers all over the place.

It's one of THOSE matches, where there's a huge influx of excitement , followed by nothing really happening, followed by EXCITEMENT, followed by nothing. I'm digging this match though, as honestly these guys work pretty well with one another collectively. Edge is eliminated and we're left with 4 individuals who look like they could have the worst chemistry EVER. Shenanigans ensue which results in the elimination of both Barrett and Cena, in what I must say has to be one of Barrett's most exciting moments ever.

Things are picking up in the final showdown between Sheamus and Orton. Normally I absolutely HATE their chemistry together, but this is easily their best pairing as they exchange finishing blows, ultimately culminating in an Orton title victory, and a continuation of all of the feuds interdispersed inside this match. Was pretty fun in parts, but could have been alot better with more Jericho (I understand the booking, as Jericho was leaving anyways). Much better than the pretty mediocre FFW match where Sheamus won the title earlier in the year. Should check it out if you have the time.

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Just out of curiousity, who is the best worker in that match, if Jericho is 2nd?

**Obfuscation** · 11-30-2012, 10:15 PM

Probably John-Boy. He'd be my second pick behind Jericho.

Agree with your thoughts on the match #PHG. It's good. Has it's moments to hold it up. Not great or "omg wow" level of a main event. A fitting end to the PPV nonetheless.

**ShowStopper '97** · 11-30-2012, 10:18 PM

Jericho and Edge are 1 and 2. Cena's not as terrible as some people may believe, but that doesn't make him great either. Certainly not up there with the likes of Jericho.

**Obfuscation** · 11-30-2012, 10:25 PM

He's pretty great, actually.

**ShowStopper '97** · 11-30-2012, 10:27 PM

Every WM match of his that is considered good, and there isn't that many of them, is with a guy who is better than him. Not a coincidence. Alot of his matches that he is considered better than (Miz, Rock who wrestled once in 8 years) were bad. Not a coincidence.

**The Beast Incarnate** · 11-30-2012, 10:27 PM

Best worker in the match ?

Honestly, if I were to rank those six in terms of all-around greatness, I'd rank them like this ;

CENA > JERICHO >> ORTON > EDGE >>> SHEAMUS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barrett

I have two CENA matches in my top 10 of all time the last time I checked. That's all I really need to say

**ShowStopper '97** · 11-30-2012, 10:30 PM

Cena isn't as good of a worker as Jericho. Go back and watch Jericho's 90's work in Japan, Germany, WCW, and WWF. Cena was never that good. Jericho can carry alot of guys to a good match, too.

**The Beast Incarnate** · 11-30-2012, 10:33 PM

Trust me, I've seen a TON of Jericho in my life and although I feel he's an all-time great for sure, I've always felt as if he was overrated by the masses for some reason. I feel out of the WCW vanilla midgets crop (made me laugh for some reason) , he was well below the likes of Mysterio, Guerrero, and especially Benoit. NOBODY ELSE feels like this and it's just a "me" thing.

I have Cena as a top five WWE worker since 2000 if I last checked correctly. 10th all time on my list currently I do believe

**Obfuscation** · 11-30-2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowStopper '97

Every WM match of his that is considered good, and there isn't that many of them, is with a guy who is better than him. Not a coincidence. Alot of his matches that he is considered better than (Miz, Rock who wrestled once in 8 years) were bad. Not a coincidence.

I'd take his work over Triple H & Batista any day so yeah this point is wrong. I'd put him above Orton too. Probably Big Show & Edge as well. Although they're close. Can say I'd take his singles work over Shawn Michaels too when I really think about it. (can't wait to see the reaction that gets)

Yeah1993 · 11-30-2012, 10:35 PM

Cena's definitely the best guy in that match career v career. Honestly I think he's trumped Jericho at this point and I actually like Jericho more than Cena. The Jericho that I saw in 2010 kind of sucked and didn't look as good Sheamus or Orton back then either. I'm actually not sure I'd take Jericho over Orton career v career. I'm also not sure I'd even take Edge over Sheamus career v career. Wade Barrett isn't as good Balls Mahoney so whateverthefuck. No idea why I posted this.

EDIT- Jericho was not that good at all in Japan or Mexico. He needed others to carry him.