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Benoit vs Train is really good, imo. A very substantial midcard match with a mega star in Benoit and an underrated big man worker. Minus the gnarly botch in it, everything works.

Yep. Vince vs Steph is good. Probably the best commentary by Cole & Taz during a match too. Emotion is spot on. It was pure emotion.

Eddie vs Show went a few minutes too long, but it's fine. Taker vs Brock went on a bit too long too. Still good. Weakest of their 3 PPV matches though. Hardy vs Gowen was fun for the time it got. Only blah match is APA vs Bashams. It involves Bashams. So that isn't a surprise. They're terrible. Ah, screw it:

Tajiri/Mysterio ~ ***3/4
Benoit/A-Train ~ ***1/4
Hardy/Gowen ~ **1/4
APA/Bashams ~ 1/2*
Vince/Stephanie ~ ***
Angle/Cena ~ ****
Eddie/Show ~ **
BROCK/Undertaker ~ ***
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Damn that actually sounds really well rounded. I can deal with a main event being in the low-mid *** range if the rest of the show makes up for it.

Plus if I'm looking for some Brock/Taker I can throw in the HIAC DVD.

Thinking of it, Raw didn't have too many great single branded shows. Other than Vengeance '05, the Backlashes and Unforgiven '06, I can't think of many.
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You could end up liking Taker/Brock more than myself too. I know it dragged for me in the middle phase. Other than that it was an entertaining clash between the big monsters.

RAW single branded PPVs seemed like old school WWF PPVs. Undercards are poor and forgettable while the main events were awesome and usually delivered. Unless it's Vengeance 2006 and the preferred main event got stuck at match #5 and a solid at best handicap match was made to be the final match on the show. I guess that beats out the night ending with Cena vs Sabu EXTREME LUMBERJACK match.
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You could end up liking Taker/Brock more than myself too. I know it dragged for me in the middle phase. Other than that it was an entertaining clash between the big monsters.

RAW single branded PPVs seemed like old school WWF PPVs. Undercards are poor and forgettable while the main events were awesome and usually delivered. Unless it's Vengeance 2006 and the preferred main event got stuck at match #5 and a solid at best handicap match was made to be the final match on the show. I guess that beats out the night ending with Cena vs Sabu EXTREME LUMBERJACK match.
Goddamn, that 5 on 2 main eventing was so strange. Got a show with a really good Edge/RVD match in the middle of the card. I still forget that RVD was champ at one point. Fucking Sabu.

Despite it not being too popular, I enjoy the triple threat from that show.
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It's DX. Not too weird when you look at it now. At least it got Dolph Ziggler a main event slot.

RVD vs Edge deserved better. It's not uncommon for WWE to do this though. Look at this year with the Punker. Oh well. They had the best match on the show much like Punk did this year. Guess that's the way it goes sometimes.

3 way is ok. Had some solid spots, but I've never been it's biggest fan. Around **1/2 for me. Actually liked Orton vs Angle from that show a lot more. (never gets mentioned, hence my point)
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Vengeance 2006... Oh God.

Edge-Van Dam was AWESOME and should have main evented, but instead we got a 17 minute long 5 on 2 handicap match featuring male cheerleaders, pantsing, and air horns. WTF. Cena-Sabu was cool just to see such an odd pair in the ring but the match itself sucked.

Personally, I ADORE the Lesnar-Taker series and agree that it needs to be Punk or Lesnar taking on Taker , with Trips getting the one that Taker doesn't face. Punk vs Trips @ Mania ? My two ALL TIME FAVORITES going one on one at Wrestlemania in a big time match ? GOD DAMN. Lesnar's a top 5 for me too, which is why I adore Trips-Lesnar I and hope we get another :hhh

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It's DX. Not too weird when you look at it now. At least it got Dolph Ziggler a main event slot.

RVD vs Edge deserved better. It's not uncommon for WWE to do this though. Look at this year with the Punker. Oh well. They had the best match on the show much like Punk did this year. Guess that's the way it goes sometimes.

3 way is ok. Had some solid spots, but I've never been it's biggest fan. Around **1/2 for me. Actually liked Orton vs Angle from that show a lot more. (never gets mentioned, hence my point)
True.

There are times when it's okay to do that. Such as Lesnar/Cena. But it pisses me off when stuff like Cena/Johnny main events.

Damn, forgot about Angle/Orton. Really liked that match. Didn't care for their ONS match but the atmosphere made up for it. ONS II is one of my favorite PPVs ever.

And @HeymanGuy, I agree. I think Trips will get the win if Trips/Lesnar II happens.
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Cena/Johnny would have been AWESOME if not for two things ;

1. The obvious Big Show turn. I actually ordered this show, and when I saw Big Show coming, my friends actually started leaving because they knew exactly what was going to happen. It would have been better if it was somebody who, you know... DOESN'T FUCKING TURN HEEL 86575 TIMES A YEAR.

2. IF IT DIDN'T MAIN EVENT. You let Punk-Bryan close out this show and OTL 12 goes up in value significantly. You have one of the best matches of this era in Punk-Bryan, and the main event is a comedy match ? Should have taken place before Punk-Bryan. What the fuck Vince.

I just wanna see a big time Lesnar match, a big time Punk match, and a big time Trips match at Wrestlemania XXIX , with Rock-Cena NOOOOTTTTT main eventing. Fuck that shit.
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True.

There are times when it's okay to do that. Such as Lesnar/Cena. But it pisses me off when stuff like Cena/Johnny main events.

Damn, forgot about Angle/Orton. Really liked that match. Didn't care for their ONS match but the atmosphere made up for it. ONS II is one of my favorite PPVs ever.

And @HeymanGuy, I agree. I think Trips will get the win if Trips/Lesnar II happens.
Yeah, the rarer occasion is fine. Undertaker vs Michaels WrestleMania 26 is another one. Random crap about b/c it has the current "big" name in the match is bunk. Cena vs Ace could have been just as impactful if it went on right before Punk vs Danielson. True story. Big Show turn wasn't mindbending or anything. A PPV had Undertaker get buried alive and it STILL continued for crying out loud.

Yep, same here. I don't care for the ONS '06 match. Vengeance was fun & good. Plus I get the satisfaction of an Orton win in that one too. The little things always help. Crowd's chants towards Orton during the ONS match are

Don't want another Brock vs Triple H match. Let alone one that means Triple H would win. Ugh @ that prospect.
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That Hammerstein crowd got better and better every match. I think they even tied Cena and Orton into the same chant at one point.

What was the big problem with Orton back then? I mean they boo'd Edge too but not to the degree of Orton. It was less heel heat and more hate heat it seemed.
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