[Gamblor]

Originally Posted by LOU

Can someone give me the best ppv matches from 2011?

My MOTN's for each PPV:

RR- Edge vs. Ziggler (****)
EC- WHC Elimination Chamber (****1/4)
WM27- Punk vs. Orton (***1/2) (Though the overwhelming majority will say Taker/HHH WM27... which I do have at ***1/2 myself and wouldn't argue it being called MOTN)
ER- Christian vs. Del Rio (****)
OTL- Orton vs. Christian (****1/2)
CP- Orton vs. Christian (***3/4)
MITB- Punk vs. Cena (****1/2) (MOTY for me)
Summerslam- Orton vs. Christian (****1/4)
NoC- Ziggler vs. Swagger vs. Riley vs. Morrison (***1/2)
HIAC- Punk vs. Cena vs. Del Rio (***1/2)
Vengeance- Cena vs. Del Rio (***1/2) (If you're looking for the best Henry/Show match, it's at this event)
SVS- Punk vs. Del Rio (***3/4)
TLC- Punk vs. Miz vs. Del Rio (***3/4)

... damn, Del Rio is in four MOTN's in a row (five in total for the year)... yet I still don't like the guy.


Edit: Can anyone post the best Chris Masters' Superstars matches? Ironically enough I was a fan of the guy in 2005-2006 back when he sucked in the ring, wasn't very good on the mic, and lacked charisma, crowd reactions, etc. Don't know why, but I figure if I was a fan back then, I should be interested in his work on Superstars where people are saying he's great. Pretty sure I saw a match between him and Drew that was great, but I'd love to see some more if anyone wants to post some videos.

[WOOLCOCK]

Masters v Mcintyre August 2010 and May 2011 are his two best, I'd go **** for both with the May match being the best.

He has a ton of good-great matches against the likes of Chavo, Gallows, Reks and Ziggler. Back in 2010 they seemed to blend together but he always gave great performances in matches even if say the match rating would struggle to be above ***, he never gave a bad performance from memory from 2010 through to his release.

[Big Z]

Dolph Ziggler Vs Chris Masters - WWE Superstars 13/05/2010
Chavo Guerrero Vs Primo Vs Chris Masters - WWE Superstars 28/01/2010
Drew McIntyre Vs Chris Masters - WWE Superstars 26/08/2010

Had some random 2010 match ratings in a text document, these were the Masters matches in it. There are more, but I'm so lazy when it comes to keeping track of up to date stuff .

[Saint Dick]

CM Punk v Daniel Bryan - Raw 1/30/12
-- Exactly what you'd expect from arguably the two best workers in the company. Well structured, nice blend of hard-hitting physicality and clean technical wrestling, good limb work from Bryan (who looked like a fuckin champ in this match) and equally good selling from Punk (loved that he switched arms to deliver the bulldog). Just a really strong TV match up before the Jericho interference. The commentators hyped up the fact that Punk and Bryan were trying to prove who the best in the world really is and the way they worked this match legitimately made me think yeah these two guys could very well be the best, unlike when they try to put over Cena and Orton like that.

***1/2

CM Punk v Daniel Bryan - SmackDown 2/21/12
-- You can't go wrong with these two. Didn't have the same heat as the previous match but they made up for that in other areas. Really good focused limb work from Bryan and excellent selling of the arm by Punk once again. I was fine with the two restarts and the inconclusive finish. Didn't love it but it didn't bother me either. It's actually good that the Raw match had a non-finish and this one was overbooked. Save their best match for PPV. That said this was still strong. Lots of nifty stuff, great selling from Punk, and Bryan looked like a million bucks.

***1/2

CM Punk v Mark Henry - Raw 4/2/12
-- All things considered this was perfectly worked. It's not a MOTYC in my mind but they couldn't have put together a better match considering the time it got and the directions they want both guys to go in. Henry looked like a monster talking trash, dominating, and cutting off Punk at every turn. Punk did a great job selling that his championship was in jeopardy and put up a spirited fight with great flurries (made even better by the crowd) and a couple neat desperation spots (really liked the DDT counter to the bear hug). Would've liked a close nearfall or two against Punk before the countout finish to get the crowd really thinking that it might be Henry's night but can't blame them for that. Would love to see a longer version of this on PPV.

***1/2

[sharkboy22]

I keep hearing about how great Masters was on Superstars, but damn was he that good that he and McIntyre of all people could pull off **** matches? Those two combined just sound like a recipe for disaster. Masters just seemed to so bland on his return to the WWE that I just never gave a crap bout him.

@Ownage CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan from Smackdown is definitely my WWE MOTY thus far. I give it ****. Just amazing storytelling. I didn't mind the swerves one damn bit, to me it added more excitement to the match especially the finish. It really solidified both men extremely well and both of them came out looking stronger than ever. That is a true and rare case of building a wrestler with just the match alone.

[Brye]

Masters became a really good worker upon return and Drew has always been pretty good in the ring. I haven't watched that match in a while but it's realyl enjoyable.

[WOOLCOCK]

Originally Posted by sharkboy22

I keep hearing about how great Masters was on Superstars, but damn was he that good that he and McIntyre of all people could pull off **** matches? Those two combined just sound like a recipe for disaster. Masters just seemed to so bland on his return to the WWE that I just never gave a crap bout him.

DA HELL?

Masters was amazing from 2010-2011, everything you say you want in a match he did to perfection, story, selling, build, structure etc. Mcintyre is brilliant in the ring as well, creative, violent, stiff, focused, bumps and sells well, builds to his bumping spots like a trooper and knows how to create an engaging workover.

Superstars, August 2010





Superstars, May 2011




WATCH THEM AND BASK IN THEIR GLORY. There's also a fabulous callback spot in the 2011 match to a Smackdown match in February from the same year, the sitout powerbomb esque spot.

2011 match is the better one of the two btw.

[Undertaker]

Any thoughts on Lesnar/Angle from WM 19?

[sharkboy22]

Originally Posted by Sparta101

Any thoughts on Lesnar/Angle from WM 19?

Been a while since I've seen it but from what I recall I liked it. Then again, those were the days when I thought Angle was GOAT, so....

@Segunda, thanks man. I'll watch those matches when I'm in the modd for some wrestling which is probably when I got tired of talking about it. That's my life for ya. Talk about wrestling, then watch it. Yeah, it's that boring and shows how much I got nothing to do with my life.

Oh and I never meant McIntyre was a bad worker, it's just that he has a bland persoanlity and usually when someone has a bland personality I don't care for their matches. Which is why I neve really cared bout Masters when he returned to the WWE.

[Dark Church]

I know I will be in the vast minority but I just watched HIAC and I think ADR/Cena/Punk is a better HIAC match than Triple H/Taker. They use the Cell a lot more and involve more weapons. I gave the triple threat **** and have Triple H/Taker at ***3/4 and it could move down after another viewing.