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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

I forgot how much I enjoyed HHH/Benoit from No Mercy '00 ****1/4+

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I forgot how much I enjoyed HHH/Benoit from No Mercy '00 ****1/4+
Speaking of which, who was the heel and face in this feud? AFAIK, Benoit was a heel from his debut until the week before WM17 when he challenged Kurt Angle and Triple H was a heel from 'whenever' until his 01 injury/02 return.

For their series of matches, I rate them at:

Smackdown 00 - N/A
No Mercy 00 - ***3/4
Wrestlemania XX - *****
Backlash 04 - ****1/2
Vengeance 04 - ***3/4
Raw 04 (Ironman) - ****1/4
Raw 14/03/05 - ****1/4
Raw 05 (Gold Rush Tournament) - ***1/2
Smackdown 05 (Eddie Tribute) - ***1/4
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Both were technically heels but you could say Trips was "the face" in the match by default because he was defending his wife/marriage just like his matches with Kurt Angle. Although when Trips was defending Steph against Jericho he was clearly the heel in that situation because the story was from a different perspective. I liked the writing in 2000 and what could have been more stupid soap opera angles involving Trips & Steph was good television that led to some good, even great matches.


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Ahhhhh yes, Benoit-Trips is one of Hunter's all time greatest series's of matches. Everytime they stepped into the ring together we got GREATNEZZZZZZ, as both men have each other's in ring psychology mapped out so well that they know exactly what kind of story they wanna tell before they even get in there.

In regards to the NM 00 match ; They were both heels, but going into the match Trips was teased as turning face at the time due to the whole Stephanie/Kurt angle (wow... Kurt ANGLE? Get it? ) . This continued until the whole Survivor Series 2000 return where Trips was revealed to be responsible for Austin being ran over.





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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

HHH was mad over on that PPV.

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Both were technically heels but you could say Trips was "the face" in the match by default because he was defending his wife/marriage just like his matches with Kurt Angle. Although when Trips was defending Steph against Jericho he was clearly the heel in that situation because the story was from a different perspective. I liked the writing in 2000 and what could have been more stupid soap opera angles involving Trips & Steph was good television that led to some good, even great matches.
Well no surprise you liked the writing in 2000, after all they did have the single greatest writer in WWF/E history at the time .

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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

I mean just compare the HHH/Steph angles with Jericho & Angle then to the soap opera angles now and the new ones just aren't as interesting (Kane/Bryan/AJ, Big Show/Edge/Vicki, Cena/AJ/Vicki, etc). I will say Dolph is shined pretty well this week in the middle of all this stuff with promos/matches/backstage segments.


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Shame Steph replaced him as head writer in November 2000. Because you know... it made sense for Steph to take over...

Edit: Also, when I watched WWF 2000 a few years ago when I got them on disc, it was amazing how I could actually tell there was something different from the last show Chris Kreski did and the first show Stephanie did. I didn't even know there was any change with creative and shit until I looked it up afterwards.
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Another thing I love about Benoit/HHH's series is the fact that Benoit was ALWAYS strongly booked and it was not one-sided like HHH/HBK (Hunter won about every single match save for 1 or 2). Even in those Raw matches they had in 05 long after Benoit's time as a main eventer was over, they still booked him strongly with him losing the first match after a bunch of shenanigans and he made HHH tap out again in their second match. Although that Gold Rush Tournament went straight to hell when Edge and Kane became the finalists when they could have booked HBK/Benoit for that, giving us a third classic match between them.
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

They made Benoit look like a BEAST against Hunter, and really played up how Trips was AFRAID of Benoit. Just take two examples from 2005 , the first being the "Pick Your Poison" match wherein the look on Trips's face when Benoit is announced as his opponent is just a look of TERROR. The second example being the rope pull from Batista and Trips tapping out to Benoit more than anybody during his career.

I'm thinking Benoit was a Paul Levesque guy, and that's why Benoit got a mention on Hunter's DVD.





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