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Old 11-22-2012, 09:15 AM   #9331 (permalink)
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Just watched AE doc. What a trip it was watching all that crazy shit again lol. The one thing that sticks out to me more than anything though is the fact that they ALL know what made that era so special yet they very clearly won't employ the same things now. It's so fucking frustrating. They know it was the characters, the storylines, the long story arcs, the investment in everybody from the top of the card to the bottom that worked but yet won't do anything about it. I honestly just don't understand that. If you have such an obvious solution to a problem staring you right in the face and you know that it works, why the hell would you ignore it for years and years? I don't get it.

Anyways, an alright doc but it could have been so much more. It was nice to go on a little trip down memory lane if nothing else.
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What bugs me is that they know enhancing the roster from top to bottom is something they can do within the whole area of being TV PG. Yet, that's one of the aspects they still choose not to touch. I don't get that. If you can make your roster feel much more legit, credible, over, etc then why not do it? It can only be beneficial for the biz. Look at '99. Val Venis was working matches with Rock & beating Foley on a PPV. Or another, and probably more sustained credible comparison, would be to watch an old school RAW during that time and see how every single segment/match has its own legs behind it. A match with D-Lo Brown & X-Pac didn't need Stone Cold out there to make it matter. The Godfather was getting mega pops without the aid of a "star" like The Rock. Crash Holly didn't have to defend the Hardcore Championship again The Undertaker to make him relevant.

To me, that's what REALLY defined the era more than stuff that PG negates. A roster filled with developed and credible talent. Not this 10 people used and 25 - 30 group of people floating around nonsense like now.
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Pretty much what I said last night after watching the doc. They are sat there, TALKING ABOUT what made the shows so good then and how great business was... yet they don't seem to think they need to do it today because... I dunno, Vince is drain bamaged or something. Like I said last night, 2 hours of the new 3 hours Raws are absolutely pointless. Just filler. And I'm absolutely fucking SICK TO DEATH of the same matches. Del Rio Vs Orton. Ziggler Vs Orton. Sheamus Vs Del Rio. Sheamus Vs Otunga. Ryback Vs Tensai. Every fucking week we get one of those matches. And then they do half of them on fucking PPV too. NO. STOP IT.
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It's about 100x more annoying when they always have the same result too. Orton beating Del Rio, AGAIN? Really? Del Rio can't even get a single chance to take the upper hand, oh ok. Lets have a shitty 8 minute 2 out of 3 falls match that probably won't settle anything. Real good.

While I didn't mind RAW this week, that was crap.
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Doesn't help that they essentially work the same fucking match too. Especially Del Rio/Orton matches. Target the arm. Walk into an RKO. Done.
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Haven't seen HIAC yet, but I don't think I've rated a single match past * yet. Ugh.
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I don't even bother watching Del Rio matches any more. Don't see the point in sitting through 10 minutes of useless arm work for him to walk into a finisher. Urgh.
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Fuck Del Rio. If it wasn't for Punk he wouldn't have a single WWE match over *** 1/2 stars IMO. Same goes with Miz (besides the AWESOME Bryan match that was *** 3/4 and the Morrison FCA, those matches rule). They join a list of various other in-ring bland scrubs that WWE has to offer today that include Cody Rhodes, Brodus Clay, Kofi Kingston, R-Truth, Ryback, Sin Cara, Wade Barrett, Ted Dibiase JR. and WAYYYY more that I can't think of.

Of ALL the guys I've listed, they have about 1 **** SINGLES match between them (Punk-Del Rio SS 11).
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Del Rio Vs Christian ?
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Punk vs Del Rio wasn't even THAT good if you ask me. About ***1/4. I've seen Del Rio mesh better with Danielson in a match on Smackdown following Summerslam. That & his matches with Edge at WrestleMania, Christian, & Cena at Vengeance were his top matches within the company.

I like Miz, Dibiase Jr, & Barrett. Big Cody Rhodes fan. Rest listed do suck. Clay could be a solid monster. You know, if his gimmick wasn't so bad.
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