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OOH. Most overrated Mysterio is the No Mercy 2002 tag. Underrated IDK about. It has to be something people have seen otherwise it's not 'underrated'. you can't rate something too low if you haven't seen it. Do people think the GAB Chavo and Judgment Day JBL matches are awesome? Because they are. Probably them.

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I'd probably agree with both overrated/underrated pics. Pretty sure most will have seen Rey/Chavo but just forget about it when they bring up best cruiserweight/juniors matches in company history. It would probably be my #1 unless I really dug the Mysterio/Noble Velocity match more on another rewatch. You seen the Mysterio/Tajiri series from September 03-January 2004? Its pretty high end stuff cruiserweight wise in WWE. The first match and final match (1st Smackdown of 2004) are the standouts, but the No Mercy 03 match is a fine follow up to the Smackdown September match between the two.

I'm not a massive fan of a lot of ECW, but they definitely produced some really great brawls and multi-man tags which broke down into lunacy. I can take or leave the Taz/Sabu/Funk 1997 and beyond stuff but the likes of Scorpio, Mikey Whipwreck, Spike Dudley and Tajiri demonstrate there was a lot of talent in the promotion. Tajiri in 2000 is still one of the most overlooked years for a wrestler.


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My favourite thing in the match might be Christian's bump off of the apron from Swagger's shoulder tackle. That honestly might be one of my favourite bumps of all time. I skipped to that spot like 6 times after it happened. I'm in no place to discuss 2009 MOTY since the majority's a blind-spot, but I don't think I'd have it above Ikeda/Ono v Suruga/Oba. That'd probably be my MOTY but there's a stupid amount of shit I want to see first.
Oh man that was a hell of a bump and something I'd actually forgotten about. Quite a dangerous bump when you consider how fast Swagger went in and the landing Christian had to take. The finish is really perfect for me though, they really manage to have a series of counters which feel dramatic (largely because you fear Christian's arm will give out at any moment) and well timed before Swagger manages to steal the match just as Christian looks to have outsmarted the champion.

Is that tag the 4/26 one? I went through some of Lenny's matches on his site for FUTEN matches since Ditch is lacking and that's the only tag of theirs I could find. I know its an April tag but sure I've seen a tag of theirs pimped from early April and wasn't sure if there's more than one or someone got the date mixed up.
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I'd probably agree with both overrated/underrated pics. Pretty sure most will have seen Rey/Chavo but just forget about it when they bring up best cruiserweight/juniors matches in company history. It would probably be my #1 unless I really dug the Mysterio/Noble Velocity match more on another rewatch. You seen the Mysterio/Tajiri series from September 03-January 2004? Its pretty high end stuff cruiserweight wise in WWE. The first match and final match (1st Smackdown of 2004) are the standouts, but the No Mercy 03 match is a fine follow up to the Smackdown September match between the two.
Seen most of the Rey/Tajiris at this point. Watched No Mercy and 9/03 recently. I remember 1/1/04 being the best one and I'm watching that again soon. Well, at least before the year ends.

Agreed on Rey/Chavo or Rey/Noble being the best WWE cruiser match.

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Is that tag the 4/26 one? I went through some of Lenny's matches on his site for FUTEN matches since Ditch is lacking and that's the only tag of theirs I could find. I know its an April tag but sure I've seen a tag of theirs pimped from early April and wasn't sure if there's more than one or someone got the date mixed up.
There's only one 2009 Futen show out there (Hell pre-2010 I think that and the debut 4/24/05 show are the only two available in it's history). April 9th/April 26th 2009. You get conflicting dates but it's the same show/match.


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Rey/Hardy when Rey wins the title is awesome too.

Tajiri/Regal had some amazingly fun short matches in 01 during the Invasion. Not seen much of Tajiri in ECW but everything I have seen was fun.
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Mysterio vs Tajiri made Rey's Biggest Little Man set. So that makes the total of ****+ matches on it at an all time high for a single set. Maybe Eddie's can rival it, but I don't own it. </3

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Seen most of the Rey/Tajiris at this point. Watched No Mercy and 9/03 recently. I remember 1/1/04 being the best one and I'm watching that again soon. Well, at least before the year ends.

Agreed on Rey/Chavo or Rey/Noble being the best WWE cruiser match.



There's only one 2009 Futen show out there (Hell pre-2010 I think that and the debut 4/24/05 show are the only two available in it's history). April 4th/April 26th 2009. You get conflicting dates but it's the same show/match.
Yeah its either the September or January match that will make my final ballot, but both are likely top 5 for cruiserweight matches in WWE.

Awesome. I figured it might be the same match since he also had 2 other matches from the same date and I know not a lot of FUTEN shows make it online.

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Rey/Hardy when Rey wins the title is awesome too.

Tajiri/Regal had some amazingly fun short matches in 01 during the Invasion. Not seen much of Tajiri in ECW but everything I have seen was fun.
I actually forgot about that one, but that's definitely a very good match and again something that a lot probably overlook when discussing Rey's WWE career. Crowd is as hot for a cruiserweight match as I can remember and Hardy plays the champ trying to prevent the inevitable defeat very well. Rey is Rey.

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Mysterio vs Tajiri made Rey's Biggest Little Man set. So that makes the total of ****+ matches on it at an all time high for a single set. Maybe Eddie's can rival it, but I don't own it. </3
I do believe the 36 disc Eddie Guerrero comp might possibly be the finest collection of matches/performances ever assembled. Though the 37 disk Terry Funk comp and 54 disc Toshiaki Kawada comp also have me salivating.

Can't wait to get around to ordering the Buddy Rose comp either, since all I've seen online is match after match from it being pimped to high fucking heaven.
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I'm also a huge fan of the Rey/Hardy WM XIX match. Goes less than 5 minutes, but they manage to fit in everything. Babyface shine, Heel control, babyface comeback, high flying spots from Rey, a good story and Hardy getting in the cheap heel victory. One of those matches that is hard to rate because its so short, but its also pretty much perfect. I have it at ***3/4 which seems insane for a 4 minute match, but at the same time its just that good.

Rey's little biggest man is one of the best match for match sets wwe have released. Up there with Flair's Ultimate Collection (though its hard to compare the two because Rey's has so many matches while Flair's has the longer matches) and Tombstone.
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Yeah its either the September or January match that will make my final ballot, but both are likely top 5 for cruiserweight matches in WWE.

Awesome. I figured it might be the same match since he also had 2 other matches from the same date and I know not a lot of FUTEN shows make it online.
Screw online, none of them are on tape either. I checked Fu-ten's official site and the date is 4/26/09, btw.


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I do believe the 36 disc Eddie Guerrero comp might possibly be the finest collection of matches/performances ever assembled. Though the 37 disk Terry Funk comp and 54 disc Toshiaki Kawada comp also have me salivating.

Can't wait to get around to ordering the Buddy Rose comp either, since all I've seen online is match after match from it being pimped to high fucking heaven.
Should have rephrased it meaning only WWE/mainstream promotion sets only. b/c when you throw out the custom sets with MUCH more content by plenty of amazing workers, then yeah. Mysterio's might fall behind despite being excellent, haha.

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Biggest Little Man is probably the best WWE release ever for matches. In fact, yeah, it is.

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I got it ranked at #1. I only paid 5 bucks for it too. Can you believe that? Rhetorical. Nobody can.

Also got Edge's Decade of Decadence & Bret Hart's 3 disc set for $5 too. STEALS

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