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Old 11-22-2012, 05:01 AM   #9311 (permalink)
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ONS 05 sucks. Yeah I said it. Hot crowd, shit matches. Fuck original ECW too while I'm at it.

Christian/Swagger II is definitely my #2 MOTY for 09 right behind Undertaker/HBK. I've been pimping the fuck out of it since it happened .
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Can anyone recommend me some good TV matches post wrestlemania??
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BOOOOOOOO

I still prefer it over 2006. Although that show had the ever fun 6 person tag match.

Christian vs Swagger is #3 for me right now. I still have Jericho vs Mysterio from The Bash over it and obviously Taker vs Michaels. I'll see where any of the Christian vs Regal matches land when I get to them in the ECW '09 stuff.
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Not the biggest fan of Rey/Jericho. I'd have Bash (their best) behind Undertaker/HBK, Christian/Swagger I, II, III, Regal/Christian Nov, and maybe a couple more matches.

ONS 06 was pretty shitty too but had the 6 man that was way better than anything from ONS 05 AND anything I've seen from the original ECW (including Eddie/Malenko, which I still like but not as much).
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I'm such a mark for The Bash match. Watched it so many times. I think I might have to rethink my 2009 list. Forgot about all of those other TV matches I praised a page or two back such as Punk vs Hardy Steel Cage & Morrison/Mysterio. I might have Christian/Swagger over the Morrison/Mysterio match, but probably not the cage.

I know people that don't like ECW. I understand your mindset. I find 2005 to be blast (which I said ^) Out of both shows I'd still take Awesome vs Tanaka over all the matches. I was a huge fan of their stuff in Japan/Original ECW so when they destroyed each other at ONS, I was a happy guy. Big Mike Awesome fan overall.
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OOH. Most overrated Mysterio is the No Mercy 2002 tag. Underrated IDK about. It has to be something people have seen otherwise it's not 'underrated'. you can't rate something too low if you haven't seen it. Do people think the GAB Chavo and Judgment Day JBL matches are awesome? Because they are. Probably them.

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I rewatched it a week or so ago after Sterling went ape for it and it not only held up but actually managed to be better since the last watch. Comfortably my US MOTY and I'd probably take it over anything in Lucha or Puro (FUTEN/BattlARTS I'm lacking in memory though) from the year as well. I'd actually forgotten how near enough every transition in the match comes from what you associate in each character: Christian gets the momentum through his knowledge and taking advantage of Swagger's rash approach and Swagger regains the momentum through his quicker agility and speed.
My favourite thing in the match might be Christian's bump off of the apron from Swagger's shoulder tackle. That honestly might be one of my favourite bumps of all time. I skipped to that spot like 6 times after it happened. I'm in no place to discuss 2009 MOTY since the majority's a blind-spot, but I don't think I'd have it above Ikeda/Ono v Suruga/Oba. That'd probably be my MOTY but there's a stupid amount of shit I want to see first.
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Mysterio vs JBL from Judgment Day '06. I tried. I tried to love it. I only classify it as "good".

GAB '04 vs Chavo. Yeah. That's underrated. It's GREAT. ****. Most matches with Mysterio and Chavo are good. I watched a match of their's from SuperBrawl: Revenge (2001) and it was even a pretty darn good bout.
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Underrated Rey Match: I dunno, maybe GAB 05. When the 05 series is talked about by anyone but those few ELITE people (see what I did there? LOLZ), JD and SD matches are mentioned. WM too but usually for different reasons. Even cage and ladder (ladder for how terrible the angle was at this point). But GAB gets forgotten about. And it shouldn't. Because its epic. One of those matches I could point to as a claim for Eddie being one of the GOAT wrestlers. Maybe I shouldn't be using this as an underrated Rey match because while Rey is in it and good, its EDDIE'S match. Maybe instead I should mention one of the Kane matches from THAT feud. You know. Burlap sack feud . Storyline was awful, but the matches were good, especially the one that ended with Kane murdering Rey with a chair off that big dive.

Overrated: I dunno again. Maybe the Jericho BASH match. Its good, really good, but not great and wouldn't make a dent in my MOTY list for 09 in all honesty.

Favourite: Probably one of the Undertaker matches. Undertaker is unstoppable, Rey is small. Undertaker butchers Rey, Rey bumps like fuck. Super fun every time.
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^No Mercy '08.

Kane vs Mysterio have DAT Chemistry, imo. Don't think they've had a match yet that I didn't enjoy.
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OOH. Most overrated Mysterio is the No Mercy 2002 tag. Underrated IDK about. It has to be something people have seen otherwise it's not 'underrated'. you can't rate something too low if you haven't seen it. Do people think the GAB Chavo and Judgment Day JBL matches are awesome? Because they are. Probably them.

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I'd probably agree with both overrated/underrated pics. Pretty sure most will have seen Rey/Chavo but just forget about it when they bring up best cruiserweight/juniors matches in company history. It would probably be my #1 unless I really dug the Mysterio/Noble Velocity match more on another rewatch. You seen the Mysterio/Tajiri series from September 03-January 2004? Its pretty high end stuff cruiserweight wise in WWE. The first match and final match (1st Smackdown of 2004) are the standouts, but the No Mercy 03 match is a fine follow up to the Smackdown September match between the two.

I'm not a massive fan of a lot of ECW, but they definitely produced some really great brawls and multi-man tags which broke down into lunacy. I can take or leave the Taz/Sabu/Funk 1997 and beyond stuff but the likes of Scorpio, Mikey Whipwreck, Spike Dudley and Tajiri demonstrate there was a lot of talent in the promotion. Tajiri in 2000 is still one of the most overlooked years for a wrestler.


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My favourite thing in the match might be Christian's bump off of the apron from Swagger's shoulder tackle. That honestly might be one of my favourite bumps of all time. I skipped to that spot like 6 times after it happened. I'm in no place to discuss 2009 MOTY since the majority's a blind-spot, but I don't think I'd have it above Ikeda/Ono v Suruga/Oba. That'd probably be my MOTY but there's a stupid amount of shit I want to see first.
Oh man that was a hell of a bump and something I'd actually forgotten about. Quite a dangerous bump when you consider how fast Swagger went in and the landing Christian had to take. The finish is really perfect for me though, they really manage to have a series of counters which feel dramatic (largely because you fear Christian's arm will give out at any moment) and well timed before Swagger manages to steal the match just as Christian looks to have outsmarted the champion.

Is that tag the 4/26 one? I went through some of Lenny's matches on his site for FUTEN matches since Ditch is lacking and that's the only tag of theirs I could find. I know its an April tag but sure I've seen a tag of theirs pimped from early April and wasn't sure if there's more than one or someone got the date mixed up.
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