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Old 11-22-2012, 12:15 AM   #9301 (permalink)
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Did anyone ever have this problem with ratings?

On first watch, I gave Roode vs Storm BFG 12 a **** 1/2 ( I haven't watched it since then). After awhile though, I realized I gave Taker vs HBK WM26 the same rating and it made me think "Is this match really as good as Taker vs HBK at WM26?". I don't think ti is, but I can't see myself lowering or raising any of their ratings, not like I can give Roode/Storm a **** 3/10 or something
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:12 AM   #9302 (permalink)
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Thanks to WWEShop's very nice sale, just picked up both Blu-Rays for Extreme Rules 2011 & Over The Limit 2011 for just $9.58. I'm aware OTL was shit by the way, just want it for the Orton/Christian match.
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Did anyone ever have this problem with ratings?

On first watch, I gave Roode vs Storm BFG 12 a **** 1/2 ( I haven't watched it since then). After awhile though, I realized I gave Taker vs HBK WM26 the same rating and it made me think "Is this match really as good as Taker vs HBK at WM26?". I don't think ti is, but I can't see myself lowering or raising any of their ratings, not like I can give Roode/Storm a **** 3/10 or something
I gave it up because it got confusing like that.

"man that was great. ***1/2"
"wait, this ***1/4 match is better than it"
"and this other ***1/2 match is better than all of them"
"and this ***3/4 match isn't really as good"
"is the first ***1/2 match REALLY better than all of these ***1/4 matches?"

That exaggerating, but I got winded. I probably had hundreds of ***1/2 matches at one point and I was like FUCK IT. I absolutely could not imagine giving ratings at this point. If I did I wouldn't bother with anything below ***. I'd just call each match under three stars "<***" or something. I do have fun looking through my old ratings, though. No matter how stupid some of my old opinions look to me now. I gave Mark Henry v Booker T from Armageddon 2003 *3/4. Pfft. Jackass.
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Thanks to WWEShop's very nice sale, just picked up both Blu-Rays for Extreme Rules 2011 & Over The Limit 2011 for just $9.58. I'm aware OTL was shit by the way, just want it for the Orton/Christian match.
Only reason I bought it.
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Yes they saved the match after Koslov almost killed it! lol The match started off hot with Jeff quickly eliminating Edge but the match dragged after that until Taker came in last.

Mysterio's performance in the Raw Elimination Chamber that night simply amazing. Maybe my favorite individual EC performance to date.
Seriously. It dragged pretty hard. It got a bit better when Taker came in like you said, but nothing major. It was the finish that really tied things together. Such a long match too. Second longest chamber iirc. I know it was nearly 36 minutes. Only behind the first which was nearly 40.

Mysterio killed it. (in a good way) Not surprising. I knew he had to excel in a match type like that. Much the same with Morrison when he got in there. But, Rey was on point. That Chamber is too good. I love all the aspects about it. The monsters coming in and dominating, then the general combo of Jericho & Rey taking them out. Cena getting booted out in only 2 minutes, SHOCKER! The awesome interaction with Edge. Great finish too. Seemed like Mysterio had a chance to pull it out. That dastardly Edge struck again.

***1/4 & ****. Got to use them starz for final analysis.

Ether, I've found myself giving a brief contemplation with some matches under that method. Only matters with certain higher ranked matches though. Idk if a I can peg an example atm....oh I got one. MITB World Championship ladder match from this year. I give it ****, however it's a low four. I feel like ***3/4 is a bit underselling it despite it's 2 minor botches. (lets thank Sin Cara & Santino for that, big shock) I dig the match a lot and I was torn in-between both so I went with 4 due to my personal enjoyment. Although when I compare it to another **** match, like Jericho vs Mysterio from Judgment Day 2009, I'd say the edge goes to the one on one match being the overall stronger bout. That's about the best example I could give off the top o' me head.
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Anybody who has got an opinion on ECW One Night Stand 2005? Was gonna finish watching it last night but after the Rey/Psicosis match, I fell asleep and woke up for one minute just to turn off the computer.

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Most Overrated Mysterio Match : vs Eddie Guerrero (Wrestlemania XXI)

Most Underrated Mysterio Match : vs Eddie Guerrero (June 2005)

Personal Favorite Mysterio Match : vs Lesnar (Smackdown 2003) / 2006 Rumble (was really Mysterio vs Trips for alot of it , makes me sick we never got a full time program)
Most overrated: vs Eddie WM21 (It may not get rated here but wwe.com putting it in Rey's top 10 matches is a fucking joke. It seems like it gets the 'classic' tag just for being in Wrestlemania. I've only watched the Judgment Day match from their feud and that one already blew this one out the water)

Most underrated: vs Randy Orton - Smackdown 07/04/06 (What can I say? It's like this match doesn't exist and I've only seen a few posters here give it its well deserved due. I slept on this match for too long and when I watched it, I didn't want it to end!)

Personal favorite: vs Orton - SD 06 / w/ Edge vs Benoit/Angle - No Mercy 02.
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One Night Stand is AWESOME. Absolute blast of a PPV. You're gonna go ape for Awesome vs Tanaka. No way you can't. It's nuts. Don't expect much from Benoit vs Eddie though. It's an underwhelming bout for those two. It's still a GOAT PPV in terms of entertainment.

Is that Mysterio list WWE only or Overall? b/c if I had to pick my personal favorite of his then it would be vs Eddie at Halloween Havoc '97. If WWE only, then I'm going with vs Angle at Summerslam '02 or Jericho at The Bash.
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Yeah I used to use star ratings, but after a while it just became too much of a hassle, probably moreso around the time of the WCW poll. It got to the point where I'd rank certain matches higher through personal favouratism or because I dug something in that match more than another match, even if the other match from a literal standpoint is better. Then I started thinking what the use of these ratings were if I was just gonna have some matches higher on the final ballot even though their initial rating was much lower.

Pretty much just write my thoughts about a match now and let that be the basis of my argument. I find it much easier to group matches into 'awesome', 'great' and 'very good' rather than having to consider the actual rating. Another problem I always had with ratings had to do with shorter matches: I could really love a 7 minute Evan Bourne/William Regal match but if I give it just below 3 stars people will most likely skip it because the rating isn't high enough regardless of the time factor, but then can I really give a 7 minute match close to 4 stars just to get more people to actually watch it?

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I rewatched it a week or so ago after Sterling went ape for it and it not only held up but actually managed to be better since the last watch. Comfortably my US MOTY and I'd probably take it over anything in Lucha or Puro (FUTEN/BattlARTS I'm lacking in memory though) from the year as well. I'd actually forgotten how near enough every transition in the match comes from what you associate in each character: Christian gets the momentum through his knowledge and taking advantage of Swagger's rash approach and Swagger regains the momentum through his quicker agility and speed.

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One Night Stand is AWESOME. Absolute blast of a PPV. You're gonna go ape for Awesome vs Tanaka. No way you can't. It's nuts. Don't expect much from Benoit vs Eddie though. It's an underwhelming bout for those two. It's still a GOAT PPV in terms of entertainment.
I've already seen Benoit/Eddie before. And yeah, it was pretty boring. Even the best of friends didn't like it and supposedly had "backstage heat" with each other afterward, lol.

The crowd has been awesome in the first hour, though. (and will be for the entire show) They always chant something. The random "Fuck John Cena" chant cracks me up.
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Yeah, those fans are jacked the entire event. It's a strong atmosphere.

Jericho vs Storm, imo. Hell of a opener.
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