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Rey Mysterio ; Superstar Collection
vs Chris Jericho (Bash 09) : **** 1/2
vs Dolph Ziggler (Night of Champions 09) : *** 1/2
vs Batista (Cage ; SD 10) : *** 1/2
vs CM Punk (Over the Limit 10) : ****
For like 7 bucks, this was an extremely solid pickup. The match vs Jericho at the Bash is the second best match of 2009 (but not even CLOSE to Taker-HBK like some very insane people say) with tons of callbacks to previous matches , great pacing and all of that jazz. vs Ziggler is an awesome match in it's own right with Ziggler playing the pretty boy/cocky heel perfectly to Rey's little man offense. How every single one of Ziggler's counter's is into a "show-off" type move is great.
The Batista match is all storytelling, with Batista systematically destroying Rey and beating him senselessly until Mysterio gets an opening and takes the match. Batista challenging Rey to do the 619 on him in the cage, only for Rey to leapfrog over Batista and almost escape is an awesome moment (and anything out of the normal cage formula is great for me). The Punk match is fucking AWESOME and perhaps their best match together, with a fantastic pace (like most Rey/Punk matches) and some awesome callbacks to their previous matches.
Overall, for such a cheap price this one is definitely worth checking out as you get an all-time classic, one of the best matches of 2010, and two *** 1/2 matches as a nice side piece. Obviously at like 82 minutes in length it isn't the greatest DVD in the world but I'm a huge fan of these little bargain DVDs that this is going to get a great score from me . (I'M RATING IT AS A ONE DISC BASICALLY)
7/10 (Recommended)
Funny you should mention that Starbuck, watching NOC 12 right now actually, can't wait to rewatch the Cena-Punk match that fluctuates from **** 1/4 to **** 1/2 everytime I think about it, getting a definitive opinion now. God that opening 4 way is underwhelming, loving the second match though, good shit.
Did it really? I don't personally remember ever believing Edge could end the streak besides a slight possibility after the second spear.
Plus that was before Taker's battles with HBK and HHH. I do still firmly believe there's a way to make Punk look like a threat, but they can't just phone the feud in. If they do, no one would believe Punk could end the streak, and rightfully so.
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Team Clay vs. Team Tensai - **** MOTN
Kaitlyn vs. Eve - **
Antonio Cesaro vs. R-Truth - **
Sheamus vs. Big Show - ***
Team Foley vs. Team Ziggler - **1/2
Cm Punk vs. Ryback vs. John Cena **3/4
Spoiler for DEM SPOILERS:
Very meh'ish show, with the unannounced match stealing it, by far. I loved the finishing stretch with all the faces getting their shit in. Primo and Titus surprised me a lot in this match, I thought they were both great. Shame about the Tensai/Clay botch, but whatever. Very impressed with Sin Cara as well, who has mightily improved since teaming up with Rey. Coincidence? I think not. Rey is awesome, full stop. I hope he sticks around as an agent/trainer when he retires, could realy help the younger guys. Great match, tbh.
Eve winning doesn't surprise me, and I actually liked the transition spot with the apron, real cool touch. Maybe Kaitlyn seemed a little bit weak coming out of this, simply due to the fact that she lost cleanly. The Aksana beat down should have done much more damage to Kaitlyn to somewhat protect her, but I'm not too fussed. I presume they're building up towards an Eve/AJ match at Mania. Aj will bury Tamina and Eve will continue going over Kaitlyn and Layla probably, heading in to a big clash in AJ's home town at Mania. Or I could maybe see Kaitlyn winning at the Rumble for the title, AJ defeating Tamina for the #1 contendership and then Eve envoking her rematch clause. Would make sense given the history between AJ/Kaitlyn as well. The divas division actually looks decent now, tbh. Needs more NATTIE though.
Cesaro and Truth blowed pretty hard, tbh, but that may just be because I hate k-Kwik and I hate Cesaro's finisher. Cesaro tried his best, but it wasn't anything amazing. The right guy won in an obvious filler feud. I hope they build someone up amazingly to challenge Cesaro at Wrestlemania. I was hoping for Swagger but I doubt it now. Nevermind.
Show/Sheamus was decent and it may go up slightly on a rewatch, but I was comparing it too much to their epic match at HIAC and I think that that's why it's so low. I understand the ending, it leaves a lot of room for their rubber match at TLC, probably, which with the right stipulation (NOT A LADDER MATCH) could be amazing.
Team Ziggles vs. Foley was fun, but wasn't high star worthy. The Miz and Ziggler proved that they belong in the main event scene, and everyone else played their part decently. Would have preferred Otunga to stay out, but they could have picked a worse replacement for Rhodes I guess. Nothing amazing, but was fun.
The main event was mediocre, but I wasn't expecting anything groundbreaking heading in to the match anyway. I'm actually not that bothered about the ending at all. If it's Nexus v3. then I really can't be arsed for it and they picked two of the least suitable people for it, in Rollins and Ambrose. But whatever. The match it's self wasn't great and I wouldn't call it essential viewing, but whatever.
500+ Day title reign vs. Undertaker's 20-0 streak sounds great, in my opinion. I applaud WWE for making the main events at Wrestlemania this year very unpredictable. But with Rock/Lesnar/Punk/Cena/Undertaker and perhaps Triple H as the stars, you can't really go wrong. They have my attention from here on out.
Team Clay vs. Team Tensai - **** MOTN
Kaitlyn vs. Eve - **
Antonio Cesaro vs. R-Truth - **
Sheamus vs. Big Show - ***
Team Foley vs. Team Ziggler - **1/2
Cm Punk vs. Ryback vs. John Cena **3/4
Spoiler for DEM SPOILERS:
Very meh'ish show, with the unannounced match stealing it, by far. I loved the finishing stretch with all the faces getting their shit in. Primo and Titus surprised me a lot in this match, I thought they were both great. Shame about the Tensai/Clay botch, but whatever. Very impressed with Sin Cara as well, who has mightily improved since teaming up with Rey. Coincidence? I think not. Rey is awesome, full stop. I hope he sticks around as an agent/trainer when he retires, could realy help the younger guys. Great match, tbh.
Eve winning doesn't surprise me, and I actually liked the transition spot with the apron, real cool touch. Maybe Kaitlyn seemed a little bit weak coming out of this, simply due to the fact that she lost cleanly. The Aksana beat down should have done much more damage to Kaitlyn to somewhat protect her, but I'm not too fussed. I presume they're building up towards an Eve/AJ match at Mania. Aj will bury Tamina and Eve will continue going over Kaitlyn and Layla probably, heading in to a big clash in AJ's home town at Mania. Or I could maybe see Kaitlyn winning at the Rumble for the title, AJ defeating Tamina for the #1 contendership and then Eve envoking her rematch clause. Would make sense given the history between AJ/Kaitlyn as well. The divas division actually looks decent now, tbh. Needs more NATTIE though.
Cesaro and Truth blowed pretty hard, tbh, but that may just be because I hate k-Kwik and I hate Cesaro's finisher. Cesaro tried his best, but it wasn't anything amazing. The right guy won in an obvious filler feud. I hope they build someone up amazingly to challenge Cesaro at Wrestlemania. I was hoping for Swagger but I doubt it now. Nevermind.
Show/Sheamus was decent and it may go up slightly on a rewatch, but I was comparing it too much to their epic match at HIAC and I think that that's why it's so low. I understand the ending, it leaves a lot of room for their rubber match at TLC, probably, which with the right stipulation (NOT A LADDER MATCH) could be amazing.
Team Ziggles vs. Foley was fun, but wasn't high star worthy. The Miz and Ziggler proved that they belong in the main event scene, and everyone else played their part decently. Would have preferred Otunga to stay out, but they could have picked a worse replacement for Rhodes I guess. Nothing amazing, but was fun.
The main event was mediocre, but I wasn't expecting anything groundbreaking heading in to the match anyway. I'm actually not that bothered about the ending at all. If it's Nexus v3. then I really can't be arsed for it and they picked two of the least suitable people for it, in Rollins and Ambrose. But whatever. The match it's self wasn't great and I wouldn't call it essential viewing, but whatever.
Mark for your rating for the opener. Need to watch it again but I really enjoyed it as well.
I still firmly believe Rock/Cena II and Brock/Taker are a lock for Mania. I'll be genuinely surprised if they aren't. But hey, the year is almost through so we won't be long finding out lol. Crazy to think I was in Miami 7 or 8 months ago. Wow. Time sure as hell flies.
I'm not outright opposed to another vs. :hhh but they would need to step away from the psychology, take it up a notch and turn it into a war. But it's not exactly my first choice.
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I was thinking they could add a HHH's career on the line stipulation, only to have Trips swerve everybody and win, could be the first half main event of the show that gets the crowd crazy as they legitimately believe that The Game's career is over (plus, if that stipulation actually happened I'd be at the edge of my seat the entire match). Maybe even make it a LMS since Trips goes full GOD mode for that match.
Have your shitty Rock-Cena rematch be your second last match on the card with the main event being Punk-Taker. God damnit, add in Sheamus-Orton-Ziggler for the WHC and have Ryback competing in a 3 minute match with Big Show and you have one of the greatest Mania cards ever. Wish we got Danielson-FELLA again though, if anybody deserves the WHC it's Danielson over Show/Ziggler/Orton/ Dude's on FIRE.
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