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Old 11-18-2012, 05:52 PM   #9061 (permalink)
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I knew something was up when Cal of all people had a match involving ROCK and ANGLE at *****.
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1. vs Austin WM17 (*****)
2. vs Benoit FL00 (****3/4) - I'm a sucker for this one!
3. vs Triple H BL00 (****1/2)
4. vs Angle vs Undertaker VEN02 (****1/2)
5. vs Austin WM19 (****1/2)
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I'm the only person here who isn't THAT crazy about Austin vs Rock from WrestleMania 17. It's a low **** match for me. It sort of loses my interest about as much as an electric, memorable match could do. (if that makes sense) Idk, I would have prefered a shorter bout. I think that's why their WrestleMania 19 match blows it away for me. They went out there with 11 minutes less and tore it up. Plus it didn't feel like that drawn out Attitude Era brawling stuff which I don't care for. WrestleMania 19 gave off that awesome King's Road type vibe. It was mega the moment the bell rang.

I don't rate Hogan vs Rock very high, but I love it. Thought it was really entertaining bout. Cena vs Rock went too long. That's the problem. Still liked it though. Oh, and Undertaker vs Rock vs Angle from Vengeance '02 is AMAZING. If it wasn't for the 2004 Triple Threat combo, that would probably by my favorite Triple Threat match in WWE history.

Haven't seen those awesome Rock vs Triple H matches from 2000 since I bought the PPVs back in that year.
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WM17 is def the Rock's best match for me. IDK what #2 is but it wouldn't matter because whatever it is is so far behind that it isn't funny.
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So am I the only one that adores Rock vs. Jericho from No Mercy '01? That's my #1 Rock match for sure and pretty high up there for Jericho too, a pretty high end **** 1/2 in my eyes.
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Judgment Day 2005:

MNM vs Hardcore Holly/Charlie Haas - **1/2
- The latter has to be one of the most random tag teams ever. This is just your typical, generic obligatory tag team title defense on PPV but it's not bad neither good, just okay.

Carlito vs Big Show - **
- Way too short and the only highlight is Matt Morgan giving Big Show the F5.

Paul London vs Chavo Guerrero - ***
- A decent match between two good cruiserweights. They get 10 minutes and make the most of it. And wow @ London. He takes some reckless bumps but still goes on, that's awesome!

Booker T vs Kurt Angle - **3/4
- Stupid feud although a bit funny with Angle bringing out his comedic best. The match itself is nothing special just decent but I simply couldn't get into the story because it's damn stupid. It started off with a chair-shot then suddenly Angle turns the attention to Booker's wife and talks about beastiality sex, lol. About time Booker also gets to win a match that matters.

Orlando Jordan vs Heidenreich - *
- Total shit and Heidenreich's "are you my friend?" shtick is even worse than Eugene and also a rehash to an extent. They should have gotten rid of him at this point already since he brings nothing to the table.

Eddie Guerrero vs Rey Mysterio - ****
- Much better than their Wrestlemania 21 match but that's also because of a better story. Eddie is now the sadistic heel who's only concern is beating the hell out of Rey while Rey is the underdog that refuses to lose. They go for almost 20 minutes and it's a great match while it lasts from the storytelling to the wrestling itself. I found Chavo's interference unnecessary but the DQ finish was in-line with Eddie's will to just physically destroy Rey. One thing I found funny was when Eddie threw Rey in the ring early in the match then out again to break the count, Tazz & Cole even pointed it out. Now I'm just waiting for their 23/6 match which should be a classic.

John Cena vs JBL - ****1/2
- Now this is more like it! After that underwhelming Wrestlemania match, here we are in an "I Quit" match between these two and simply put, it's a bloody battle. They explore all the options they are given from going to the top of that huge truck to using the limo door, to going through glass and announcer tables. Both men also bleed buckets. One of the best Cena matches ever and the one that "made" him into a permanent main eventer and a force to be reckoned with.

Overall: **3/4 out of ***** (Save for the two 5 minute matches with the lowest ratings, this PPV just gets better as it goes on with two amazing main event matches and some enjoyable stuff on the undercard. I'd say it's worth it just for the last two matches, though. Also why the hell is The Undertaker inactive at this point? He's just disappeared since WM21 and I assume he returns when Orton moves over to Smackdown. Otherwise, I have to say it's a pleasant surprise that the SD exclusive PPVs are doing so much better in 05 compared to 04 where they were terrible almost start to finish.)
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So am I the only one that adores Rock vs. Jericho from No Mercy '01? That's my #1 Rock match for sure and pretty high up there for Jericho too, a pretty high end **** 1/2 in my eyes.
Nah it's awesome. One of the Rock's best performances and matches ever. One of Jericho's best matches as well.

SURVIVOR SERIES:
-The Mysterios v Those Other Guys: Um...this happened. Wasn't good. I remember....something. Not worth a shit w/e.
-Diva's Title: This was great. Gave me time to get some fruit for lunch. The match was also ****1/2 and a MOTYC.
-US Title: Fine match with a really nasty uppercut thing from Cesaro. That should definitely be his finisher.
-Vickie/AJ segment: This was as bad as anything I've seen in a long time. Is Gewirtz back?
-Show/Sheamus: I seemed to be one of the only people that thought their match at HIAC would be MOTN before it happened. Didn't change my tune for this show. Definite MOTN; these two have a really good quasi-formula worked out. Some of the fat could be trimmed since Show's controlling goes a little long and gets a little tedious, but the heavyweight slugging and big moves stuff is great. Finish was bullshit. They're out of ideas.
-Team Foley v Team Zigg: This was OK. Bryan's been shafted since the anger management stuff. It's like he doesn't stick out from the pack any more. The Miz looked stupid. Final moments were weird. TURN ZIGGLER. I loved the "I hate you" segment earlier on.
-WWE Title 3-way: This fuckin' stunk. A lot of the time they were pretty much epitomizing "I roll out the ring you come in". Ryback is a god awful bald piece of useless shit. I remember weeks ago there a Goldberg v Ryback thread and people were saying crap like 'Goldberg is better at squashes but Ryback is better at actual matches'. Obviously talking out of their arses and I wonder if they've changed opinions after his two terrible performances in the main event of back to back PPVs. Pops up after big moves and nothing he does looks good. Yuck. Another weird finish, but this at least could lead to something. CM Punk leading a bunch of FCW followers would be cool.

Grumpy verdict: BAD SHOW.
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***1/2 for both the tag & cruiserweight championship @ Judgment Day 2005. Awesome matches. Love that opener.

Survivor Series sounds decent from a match point of view on paper. But, that ending. Yeah, I'm in the group that's just by the sound of it.
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:25 AM   #9069 (permalink)
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I WOULD do a first take on tonight's Survivor Series PPV , but I felt the show was just so lackluster and uninspired that I don't feel like it. FUCK IT. Show-Sheamus was fucking great but not as good as the HIAC encounter as all , while Ryback needs to be out of main event matches like NOW. He's fucking garbage and if I have to see him main event any more PPV's you might just see me pull an Austin101 on here. I'm gonna go ahead and say that he's on BARRETT-MIZ BAD main event level matches.

Why stick Punk with him ? We're CLEARLY on cruise control with Punk until the Rumble, so why not give us a damn good match here or something with Punk-Cena again , or FUCK even a Punk-Orton match or some shit... Don't you think THAT would be good ? Ryback is TRASH.

Another thing that REALLY pissed me off ; WHY... WHY in the name of fuck is Daniel Bryan being treated like a second banana to DEL RIO of all people ? Bryan is easily one of the most over performers in the company right now and you've honestly just had him tap out with ease to the individual who has been more force fed to the audience than any other performer in HISTORY. Seriously, Del Rio sucks too.

The GOOD news : We're more than likely getting a Sheamus-Show chairs match at TLC that should be fucking awesome, and we're more than likely getting an Orton heel turn soon, probably leading to a Sheamus-Orton match at Wrestlemania. TLC better feature Cena-Punk or Punk-??? WITHOUT Ryback. FUCK.
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I'm annoyed by the Danielson loss to Del Rio too, but I don't look into the elimination tags for much except for the result. Dolph won. That's the only thing that's gonna matter for tomorrow and onward.

The face/heel dynamics of Miz & Orton matter too. I'll give those their due. The Orton one was a total swerve, but YES at the signs being there. A week and a half ago he was high-fiving Mysterio & Sin Cara. Now he's surly. It's random, but I'll take it. It's needed. Much like Miz going face is to revitalize his career.
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