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Old 02-29-2012, 03:38 PM   #81 (permalink)
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The worst of the worst for WM main events are Hogan/Bundy, Miz/Cena, Yoko/Hogan, Sid/Hogan and LT/Bam Bam. Bret/Yoko at 9 & 10 aren't that good either. Orton/HHH, Jericho/HHH and Batista/HHH are so-so/underwhelming.

Hogan/Andre is not a good match but I get chills at that stare down and the slam is still a sight to see 25 years later.
I'd still put them all above Hogan/Andre. WM II Cage match is slightly entertaining (and I think we both know someone that is VERY fond of it ), Miz/Cena while bad still isn't close, Yoko/Hogan was a spur of the moment type match that only lasted about 10 seconds anyway and doesn't really count, Sid/Hogan... its damn close, LT/Bam Bam isn't a bad match by any means imo, and Bret/Yoko were both pretty poor yeah, but Bret did a good job making them not completely suck balls. WM 1 main event needs to be added to the list of totally shit WM main events too. Bam Bam/LT was WAY better tbh.

Of course, the likes of WM 1 and WM 3 main events will be held in higher regard by a lot of people in general for their significance, but as matches they blew chunks.
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I agree Cal. The significance, atmosphere and moment(s) are what the WM1 and WM3 main events will most be remembered for more so than match quality.

I need to re-watch LT/Bam Bam and Taker/Sid.
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The first bunch of Wrestlemania were all shit IMO and the only good matches came from the undercard. But Vince knew why he had those main events. He knew why he included so much celebs and stuff in it. I'm pretty sure a lot of purists were all over the first few Wrestlemanias. I'm sure purists at the time thought they sucked, they were ruining the business and all that sort of shit. But Vince, being the genius that he is, knew what he was doing.
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I agree Cal. The significance, atmosphere and moment(s) are what the WM1 and WM3 main events will most be remembered for more so than match quality.

I need to re-watch LT/Bam Bam and Taker/Sid.
One thing to watch out for with Taker/Sid is the fucking length of the match. I still consider it to be "good" but man, they could have taken 10 minutes off it and they would have still gotten everything in .
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WM III main event is the hardest match for me to rate... EVER.

I mean, what should I give it ? It's horrendous, but the spectacle and crowd interaction is fantastic. That MUST account for some stars ? dosen't it ?

I have it at ** 1/4, the most generous I'll ever be for a WM main event. What about you guys ?
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I'd give it 1/4*. Match quality alone is DUD, but everything else surrounding it prevents it from being the worst match ever.
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Am I the only one or one of the few that prefers Benoit/HHH/HBK from Backlash over their Mania match? There's something bout the storytelling that I liked better in that one. The whole screwjob reenactment was insane.
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Hogan/Andre, I have it at *3/4, but it's one of my favorite matches of all time.
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I wouldn't call Hogan/Warrior a terrible match. At all. Was pretty good tbh, especially considering you've got someone who is total shit and Ultimate Warrior... . Hogan did an amazing job getting Warrior through that match without it turning into a fucking disaster.

Hogan/Andre is probably the absolute worst WM main event of all time. It can have as much significance as it wants but its still a god awful match that nobody ever needs to see. There are plenty of clips of the slam going around .
Agree to disagree I guess about Hogan/Warrior. I just never liked either one of them as far as what they did in the ring. It was like oh lets play mercy for a few minutes, let me fake an injury outside of the ring for a few minutes, let me put the sleeper on you, lets both do our finishers, etc. At the time when it happened (I was 9) I loved it but watching it again now I can't believe Warrior was as over as he was while guys like DiBiase, Rude, Perfect and Davey Boy Smith couldnt even get a sniff. Granted they were not as over as Warrior was in 1989-1991 but it's just odd what people like. I don't know. The crowd was so into it and it was huge for wrestling seeing the two top babyfaces go at it and the end was unexpected....at least for me as a 9 year old.

I think the Warrior/Savage match at WM7 was far and away better. As was the Savage/Warrior match at Summerslam. they also had some good cage matches at house shows in 1991. I think Savage and Warrior just had way better chemistry together thn Hogan and Warrior.

I think LT/Bam Bam and Hogan/Sid were complete disasters. Neither had any business closing Wrestlefuckingmania. Savage/Flair not closing WM8 made no sense whatsoever and as much as I can't stand Nash I think HBK/Nash should have closed Mania. I wish Hart had won the title at Royal Rumble in 1995 and we would of got Hart/HBK in 1995 for the title. I don;t know why that didn't happen? Im sure someone wouldnt put someone over....like always.
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I will not call The WM 3 a great match or anything but don't understand the DUD treatment. It has a great atmosphere and a great Story in the "will Hogan be able of beat The giant and If So, he will be able to slam him", there are 2 or 3 great teasers of the Bodyslam spot and when he finally do it is a pretty fucking great moment (even if is not the first time someone slam Andre in real world). And then Andre bangin up and all is pretty good during the contest making his offense section doesn't fit like mere filler, Hogan like the underdog is also good.

At least is better than the Iron Man and the WM 25 main event....
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