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Old 11-15-2012, 02:12 PM   #8841 (permalink)
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BUT WHAT ABOUT THEIR KOTR 2002 MATCH DAMNIT ?!?!?!?!?!

You can't POSSIBLY tell me that their 2002 CLASSIC wasn't an indicator of how AWESOME the Wrestlemania XXVII and XXVIII matches could be ? :hhh

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Cal ...... Top 3 most desired Taker Wrestlemania matches for XXIX ? Never heard your input on this (just automatically guessed Lesnar, Punk, and Cena) . Imagine if WWE trolls the shit out of us and has Taker-MIZ with Miz breaking the streak
What KOTR 2002 match? That never happened. YOU CAN'T MAKE ME REMEMBER IT.

Top 3 Undertaker WM matches for next year (or the year after if he misses):

Lesnar - Absolutely loving Lesnar's MMA style since he returned. With Undertaker incorporating some MMA stuff into his moveset over the years, and the fact he's probably better NOW at working big matches than he was in 02/03 when they last wrestled... I'd expect a damn classic from the two of them.

Punk - Recently watched their 09 series again and loved it a lot more than I did back in the day. Their 2010 match is fucking incredible and probably a top 10 match of the year and second best TV match of the year. Punk's new character demanding respect and shooting on people having having his big WWE Title run aka STREAK in a way would make for a perfect opponent against Undertaker at WM.

No idea about a 3rd guy. Like Undertaker/Sting, Undertaker/Cena just doesn't interest me that much. Yeah, Cena's hugely underrated a lot of the time as a worker, especially a big match worker, so they'd probably be able to have a great match, but I just don't CARE about Cena. His character died about 5 years ago. Now he's just a random guy in stupid fucking jorts making cheesy jokes and happens to have good matches most of the time .
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Yeah, not much else to remember from that run. He had 2 other matches with Benoit that I gave both I think *** 1/4, and those were probably his only WCW matches above ** 1/2
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Taker and Rock have good chemistry, but they both have many other guys they have better chemistry with. I thought their matches at KOTR, NWO, and the Raw match they had in 1998 were all at the very least good. They also had a match in 2000 that Taker ended up winning in the build up to Unforgiven, but I'd need to re-watch the match to judge it.

Taker and Austin had some odd chemistry. They had a couple of awesome matches (FL 99 and JD 01), but besides that their matches generally are very boring and uninteresting contests imo. Summerslam 1998 is very nostalgic for me, and it's a good match imo, but disappointing considering the hype and build up the match got. Their Over the Edge 99 match sucked from what I remember, the buried alive match was nothing special, and same thing for the Raw match in 99 where Austin won back the title. I know they had a PPV match in 1997 as well and a few matches around/before that, but can't say I really remember any of them.

Never thought Taker and HHH's chemistry to be honest was on the money either. I do think their WM17 and WM28 were excellent matches, as was the finish of the WWE Title EC in 2009, and the WM27 was very good, but to me, it just didn't feel like they meshed as well as they should've generally (of course the people that put the WM27 and WM28 matches at ****1/2+ each would disagree, but whatever). KOTR 02 was of course terrible, but the Raw match they had that year that HHH won and the UK PPV one I'm a fan of. Also the match between them on SD in 08 screamed mediocre, and I don't get why they'd put them in a random match on SD in the first place for their first match in 6 years.

Interestingly enough, if I'm not mistaken, Taker/HHH are among the only few matchup combinations to have matches featuring every face/heel dynamic. What I mean is they've had:

Face vs. Face matches (SD 08, WM27, AND WM28)
Face Taker vs. Heel HHH (WM17, Raw 02, and more I'm sure I'm forgetting)
Heel Taker vs. Face HHH (UK PPV in 02, KOTR 02)
and even the rare Heel vs. Heel combination (Raw 1999)

Not sure what other combination of wrestlers can claim they've done that, though most also haven't done heel vs. heel since they're so rare. I thought Taker/Angle may have fallen in the same category as they had a heel vs. heel match or two in 02, but they've never had a match to my recollection where Taker was the heel and Angle was the face.

I think Kane/Batista may have all the combinations as well. Heel vs. Heel (Raw in 04 where Eugene was GM... though I think it was short) and Face Kane vs. Heel Batista at Armageddon 2002. I'm not sure about the other combinations, but I'm certain face Batista vs. face/heel Kane has happened at some point, but not sure if both happened.
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:20 PM   #8844 (permalink)
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My favourite HHH/Undertaker match is from SD 2000, some time before Fully Loaded. I'd only recently gotten Sky Sports to see Smackdown, and it was "uncut" on a Wednesday night, and the show with those in a No DQ match or something was the first Smackdown I got to see that wasn't "cut" on a Saturday morning lol.

They had a fun match on SD in 01 as well during the Undertaker/Austin feud, where Austin phoned up and told Undertaker his wife had been in a car wreck, then blamed it on HHH (they were tagging at the time ), so Undertaker tried to murder HHH in a match .
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Trying to get back to watching some wrestling again after being very disinterested. I haven't followed the current product since the initial Punk run right before MITB when he "walked out". My collection of ppvs stopped at Extreme Rules 2010, I ordered OVL and F4W 2010 to start back up. Started Extreme Rules last night, I liked the Punk/Mysterio match, and Orton/Swagger was surprisingly entertaining, Jack took 2 great headshots from the trashcan haha, gonna finish it in a bit, and then move on to OVL and F4W.
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Just finished downloading the new nwo and Lesnar sets so thats me sorted for the next few days.

On possible Taker opponents at Mania i'd go for either Punk or Lesnar. 2 very different potential feuds but both would be really entertaining.

I'd also love to see Kane built up again for one last run and for him and Taker to retire together at Mania in a few years.
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For the streak it simply HAS to be Cena or Lesnar for me. Nobody else is acceptable because I just couldn't ever buy into them beating him. I couldn't even let myself pretend that Punk or anybody else could beat Taker lol and I don't think Rock can produce the type of match that the streak has now come to demand at this stage. Short of pulling out a shotgun and firing rounds, nothing will be able to keep him down lol. The match needs to be a truly physical war, not the big flashy main event style match Rock is more suited for at this stage in his career.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:09 PM   #8848 (permalink)
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I would get that but I don't see how Rock falls into that category when Cena and HBK don't, Rock's got history of a far more viscous side than either of those, especially Cena now?
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I would get that but I don't see how Rock falls into that category when Cena and HBK don't, Rock's got history of a far more viscous side than either of those, especially Cena now?
Pinning my hopes on Cena losing his shit and turning heel at the MEGA heat he'll receive for even standing in the same ring as Taker lol or at the very least, playing the heel or a pseudo heel in the match/feud and getting some of his edge back.
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Would love to see heel Cena v. Taker @ Mania. I'd like to see Lesnar/Taker, too, but that means another loss for Lesnar since returning. He should have NEVER lost to Cena, damnit.
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