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Old 11-08-2012, 11:43 PM   #8651 (permalink)
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This probably should have another volume there is potential for so much. Depending on how it sells which I will predict it sells pretty well this holiday season there will be more productions created.

The Rock/Taker match from 1998 is a good TV main event as are the matches Rock wrestled with Austin in March and in November that year. Good mention of that three way too.

I would love to see rare segments like the ones you mentioned but also the rare matches such as the UK PPV matches I mentioned earlier like Austin/HHH from Mayhem in Manchester in '98 (I'd say their best non-gimmick match) or Rock/HHH Cage Match from the Rebellion PPV in '99. I also remember Austin defending the WWF Title in a 4-way against Taker, Kane, and Mankind at a Capital Carnage PPV in '98. After the match was funny as hell with Hebner fighting the stooges!
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:51 PM   #8652 (permalink)
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Woah woah woah, Cena is undefeated at SVS? But wait, last year... he uh... oh yeah, he teamed with that movie guy and won. But what about the year bef... oh right, he didn't wrestle, he was fired for a night (if even that). 2009 though I know for sure he, uh, oh yeah he beat HBK and HHH. 2008 he fought Chris Jericho... that's like an instant win for Cena there. 2007 he was injured. 2006... fuck if I remember, think he won in a traditional SVS tag match. 2005 I know he beat Angle. 2003 and 2004 he won in the SVS elimination matches.

Well fuck me, he is undefeated at SVS. And since I'm certain Punk is losing the strap and Ryback I can't see winning it yet (especially since he didn't win it at HIAC), it seems like Cena will continue the undefeated streak this year as well. I'm certain it's unintentional though, much like Taker's for the first several victories.
If he didn't drop the belt at HIAC he's not dropping it at SVS in this throw together match. Vince even said that the only reason Ryback didn't win the belt was because he felt Punk's reign is more important.
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When did Undertaker vs Heidenreich from Survivor Series 2004 become good? Figured it was only my brother was the only one who thought it was watchable. Shelton vs Christian is good though. MOTN imo.

Survivor Series 2002 ftw. That PPV is too, too much fun. RNN update cutting off what was to be an inspirational Shawn Michaels promo = GREAT


Hell in a Cell 2009



1) World Heavyweight Championship - Hell in a Cell Match:
CM Punk(c) vs The Undertaker ~ **3/4


2) WWE Intercontinental Championship:
John Morrison(c) vs Dolph Ziggler ~ ***1/2


3) WWE Divas Championship:
Mickie James(c) vs Alicia Fox ~ 1/2*


4) WWE Unifed Tag Team Championship:
Chris Jericho & Big Show(c) vs Batista & Rey Mysterio ~ ***3/4


5) WWE Championship - Hell in a Cell Match:
John Cena(c) vs Randy Orton ~ **1/2


6) Drew McIntyre vs R-Truth ~ 1/4*


7) WWE United States Championship - Triple Threat Match:
Kofi Kingston(c) vs Mike Mizanin vs Jack Swagger ~ *1/2


8) Hell in a Cell Match:
Shawn Michaels & Triple H vs Cody Rhodes & Ted Dibiase Jr ~ **1/4


Said I'd get on this PPV soon and boosh. Done. I like it. I know it seems to be a polarizing event. Either you like it or you don't. I'm in the like grouping. I'm still not crazy with the layout of the event. Better wording would say the order of the matches. Nonetheless, that's neither here nor there as the event is long behind us now.

~ Two best matches the first time around remained the the best matches on this go. Hell in a Cell's all worked for the majority. They weren't anything near the best bunch of Cells, but watchable/solid is their range.

~ Taker vs Punk really was the best of the 3. Only flaw it had was it lacked time. Easy to see with about 5 more minutes it would have inched its way into the 3 star territory.

~ Orton vs Cena is a match I still don't find to be awful. Not gonna lie, the middle segment did lose my interest for a bit. Other than that, I'm cool with it. Fail to see how the finish is supposedly botched too. He punts him and wins. That's bad? He's done that before.

~ DX vs Legacy was loads better this go around. (yes, **1/4 is an improvement from where I used to think of it) Still don't like the way it ends. DX comes back too swiftly. Legacy DESTROYED Shawn for nearly 14 minutes. As soon as H gets that cell open, done. Less than 5 minutes Legacy goes down. Meh. Would have much preferred a hot tag sort of situation with H, Legacy gaining the momentum back, then the eventual DX comeback to win. H enters the ring and Shawn is magically energized again to take them down. Not for me.

JeriShow showed their worth on this event by stealing the show. That title run was superb.
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^ I hold Punk/Taker in a similar vein as Cena/Lesnar. Good match, terrible booking. Taker really shouldn't of went over it killed Smackdown so bad that it never recovered.
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Yeah, I can't say I agree with all of that. Especially about BROCK vs Cena being booked wrong. Match was just about flawless. Cena winning doesn't make the booking terrible. Sorry.
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This probably should have another volume there is potential for so much. Depending on how it sells which I will predict it sells pretty well this holiday season there will be more productions created.

The Rock/Taker match from 1998 is a good TV main event as are the matches Rock wrestled with Austin in March and in November that year. Good mention of that three way too.

I would love to see rare segments like the ones you mentioned but also the rare matches such as the UK PPV matches I mentioned earlier like Austin/HHH from Mayhem in Manchester in '98 (I'd say their best non-gimmick match) or Rock/HHH Cage Match from the Rebellion PPV in '99. I also remember Austin defending the WWF Title in a 4-way against Taker, Kane, and Mankind at a Capital Carnage PPV in '98. After the match was funny as hell with Hebner fighting the stooges!
With the talk about doing volume 2 for the Nitro DVD(It was a big success, usually all the WCW concepts are selling well), I can see them doing something like that with the AE. Maybe a series.

I don't remember Austin/HHH(which is a perfect choice for these DVDs because most of the memorable matches are already on the Individual). Rock/HHH in a cage was an awesome match. The cage match they had on RAW in July always got the promotion but I thought that the Rebellion match was a league above it. IIRC Angle and Austin defended the title in a 4 way on the December UK PPVs in 1998 and 2000. A few weeks ago I watched some segments from Superstars in 1999, they had a segment there with Rock and Austin in the Emmys doing comedy on stage. That's usually the selling point for me on their DVDs and would be great if they can get things like that from their archives. Especially now when they don't need to blur half the screen with the WWF logo.

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Just got finished with disc one of the BORK DVD , and now I've just started watching the matches. Despite his short tenure, I'd say that Lesnar is in my top 5 favorite performers ever, and is my pick for perhaps the most unique and entrancing presence in the history of wrestling. The dude is just a straight up BEAST , and how he was able to grasp in-ring psychology so quickly despite very little BIG time experience (well NONE) prior to WWE I'll never know....

Just made a list of every single televised BORK match ever. Going to watch this DVD first, and whenever I'm not watching a disc, my main priority is to do a fully fledged BORK project (complete with his matches from OVW and Japan ) where I basically try and prove this claim of mine that he has done the most with the least amount of time (talking WORK wise) ever. The Lebron James of wrestling, the physical monster that you can't turn the TV off when he's on there. He needs a big time match at Wrestlemania, and I hope the guy has a match at the Rumble as well. Ideal Brock match for Wrestlemania XXIX ?

PS: The Brock Doc was AMAZING for 2003 standards, but pretty bad when comparing it to nowadays big production and in depth deals. Kind of the forefather to the modernized Doc's we're getting now in 2012.
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With the talk about doing volume 2 for the Nitro DVD(It was a big success, usually all the WCW concepts are selling well), I can see them doing something like that with the AE. Maybe a series.

I don't remember Austin/HHH(which is a perfect choice for these DVDs because most of the memorable matches are already on the Individual). Rock/HHH in a cage was an awesome match. The cage match they had on RAW in July always got the promotion but I thought that the Rebellion match was a league above it. IIRC Angle and Austin defended the title in a 4 way on the December UK PPVs in 1998 and 2000. A few weeks ago I watched some segments from Superstars in 1999, they had a segment there with Rock and Austin in the Emmys doing comedy on stage. That's usually the selling point for me on their DVDs and would be great if they can get things like that from their archives. Especially now when they don't need to blur half the screen with the WWF logo.
I think now that the scratch logo & WWF don't have to be censored we will see more footage from that era on DVDs and compilations. If they ever do the Rock/Austin set they should gather all the segments you are mentioning and more.

Capital Carnage '98 match was extremely fun main event with a molten hot UK crowd:




Also, here are links to the Austin/Triple H match from Manchester. The event took place like that same week after WrestleMania XIV (start @ 13:58): http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/6j2X6NLeF54/
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/1Y2vDyjzOQE/
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Yeah, Trips has stated numerous times that he and Austin wrestled practically almost everynight for a few straight months leading up to and after Wrestlemania XIV , due to Shawn obviously being able to compete. I'd like to go back and see those matches actually, I think that'd be some pretty cool shit. Imagine what a best of the House Shows DVD could bring us.... Do you think there was ever a **** 3/4 - ***** match to take place on a House Show ? Like one night two guys just went out there and perfected EVERYTHING for 30 minutes. It'd be interesting to see for sure.

PS: Does anybody have tabs on that guy who was/is selling the 20 disc Brock comp ? I'd be interested in copping that for sure. I NEED all of his televised matches and maybe even a few more, that's the nature of my obsession over DA BROCKTAGON. TRIPS-BORK II = JIZZZZZZZ
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Yeah, I can't say I agree with all of that. Especially about BROCK vs Cena being booked wrong. Match was just about flawless. Cena winning doesn't make the booking terrible. Sorry.
Yeah bad example. Cena basically had to win. I just hate the ending, not so much the bookings fault. Maybe the same vein as Nash/Goldberg?

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