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post #8641 of 20566 (permalink) Old 11-08-2012, 01:22 PM
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Malenko is awful unless he's working sub 10 minute mat contests with Norman Smiley or La Parka. Minute the match gets past 10 minutes and he has to make his submissions part of a story to develop a flow/story in the match is when it all goes to shreads. I can't tell you how many matches of his I watched for the WCW poll and how good they could have been if he'd have strung a half interesting and compelling control segment.

The aforementioned Smiley match fucking rules though, and its on youtube.
Yay, there's someone else out there who thinks Malenko sucks. Malenko is your typical bland, boring and completely devoid of a personality wrestler. He makes excuses for his lacking of being interest by trying to sell himself as some technical god in the ring. What I'm saying is that the guy just done a bunch of submissions that have no impact on the match or even tell a story.

Here's another guy you guys can give me shit for, Lance Storm. He fucking sucks. There I said it. Why does he suck? See Malenko. Another boring ass wrestling trying to make up for his boring-ness by trying to impress with his knowledge of holds. If only he knew how to properly work a match and make those holds have meaning.

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Talking about Survivor Series, I was a huge fan of Survivor Series 2004. I decided not to order live on pay per view and I still kinda regret it to this day. Top to bottom a damn good show. Booker T vs Jbl was a great match and I loved the main event.
Christian/Shelton and Taker/Heidenreich are underrated too. Really good matches that added to the card. The latter was surprisingly good I thought.


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post #8643 of 20566 (permalink) Old 11-08-2012, 02:30 PM
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Ahhhh Survivor Series 2004 , such fond memories as a Trips mark , wanting to see him control Raw was an anticipation I'll never forget (although it never actually happened ) . The main event was fucking awesome , and I'd put it in the upper echelon of traditional SS matches, probably 5th best or so. Benjamin-Christian is one of the best IC title PPV matches in a very long time (though not as impressive as Jericho-Benjamin from BL 05 of course ) , while Taker-Heidenreich was WAY better than it ever should have been. LOVE Booker-JBL even though its not a really good match per se. Survivor Series 2005 is a different story altogether, as its one of my all time favorites. We got the crazily overbooked but fun Cena-Angle, a great booker-Benoit opener, an all time classic LMS match between H' and Flair, a kick ass Divas match between Trish and Melina, and my all time favorite traditional SS match for the main event. Loved the ending with taker as well, as I was anticipating his return all night. I remember hoping he would come back wearing the purple gloves, what the fuck was I thinking ? Ahahahahaha hahahaha (this is paragraphless because I don't know how to split paragraphs on my iPhone during a long drive )





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From the Survivor Series that I've seen, 2003, 2004 and 2005 are all pretty good. Can't wait till I reach the Benoit tribute show so I can go back to SVS 1996 and continue until 2002. Others I've seen are 2010 and of course, 2011. 10 it's been a while but I don't remember anything special and 2011 was all about the surprisingly entertaining Show/Henry match and the main event tag match. Out of all of these, 2005 is by far the best. Remove the pointless Bischoff/T-Long match and the card is pretty much perfect.
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2002 is my absolute favourite Survivor Series event. Fun 6 man tables match with the return of the Dudley Boys. Kidman/Noble is a solid CW match. Victoria/Trish is a pretty damn good hardcore match. Show/Lesnar is great for the time it gets. Lesnar was impressive as fuck and we get the then typical SS screw job (seriously, this happened EVERY SS for christ knows how many years after 97 lol). Triple Tag Team Title match is awesome. Elimination Chamber, while I don't hold it in such high regard these days is still great and one of the best ones. HBK winning was a great moment. Oh, and Scott fucking Steiner showed up. Whole show is right up there with SummerSlam 2002 as an all round awesome show and super fun.



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Rock316AE, here's Rock vs. Vader if you want to watch it. I think it would be pretty cool to add a TV match like this or the Rock/Austin Raw matches to the Attitude Era set.



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post #8647 of 20566 (permalink) Old 11-08-2012, 09:37 PM
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Survivor Series 2003 and Survivor Series 2005 are two of my favorites:

2003 had the RAW Survivor Series match (****1/2+) one of my all time favorite SS matches, if not my favorite.

2005 because I was there live, but that not withstanding the Smackdown vs. RAW SS match (***3/4) that had one of my favorite match buildups of all time. Add in Triple H/Flair Last Man Standing (****1/4) too.

Looking back I can't believe that they didn't run with a Randy Orton Survivor Series streak to parallel Undertaker's WM Streak. Orton was 3-0 consecutively as a Survivor Series Survivor and I thought that they were going to run with that at the time.



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They actually have a Survivor Series streak going with Cena, designed or not. He is currently 7-0. Something has to give at this year's event between Cena's win record and Punk's Title reign. I don't see Ryback taking a pin fall to slow his momentum.


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I actually didn't know that and now that I do I don't think Cena's record is intended lol.

As far as I am concerned either Cena or Ryback is going over, especially with the last minute change to make the match unless it ends in a dirty finish (which technically isn't possible considering Triple Threat matches are no DQ but this is WWE).

As far as the actual streak relation I was actually referring to Orton's Survivor Series Matches not his matches in general at Survivor Series lol.



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post #8650 of 20566 (permalink) Old 11-08-2012, 11:45 PM
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Woah woah woah, Cena is undefeated at SVS? But wait, last year... he uh... oh yeah, he teamed with that movie guy and won. But what about the year bef... oh right, he didn't wrestle, he was fired for a night (if even that). 2009 though I know for sure he, uh, oh yeah he beat HBK and HHH. 2008 he fought Chris Jericho... that's like an instant win for Cena there. 2007 he was injured. 2006... fuck if I remember, think he won in a traditional SVS tag match. 2005 I know he beat Angle. 2003 and 2004 he won in the SVS elimination matches.

Well fuck me, he is undefeated at SVS. And since I'm certain Punk is losing the strap and Ryback I can't see winning it yet (especially since he didn't win it at HIAC), it seems like Cena will continue the undefeated streak this year as well. I'm certain it's unintentional though, much like Taker's for the first several victories.

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