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Old 11-07-2012, 11:41 PM   #8631 (permalink)
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96 was pretty awesome due to MSG crowd, Austin/Hart, and HBK/Sid.
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:02 AM   #8632 (permalink)
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^agreed

My Top 10 Favorite Survivor Series Matches are:

Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin (1996)
Diesel vs. Bret Hart (1995)
Team WWF vs. WCW/ECW Alliance (2001)
Randy Orton vs. Shawn Michaels (2007)
Bret Hart vs. Bob Backlund (1994)
Elimination Chamber (2002)
Batista vs. Undertaker (2007)
John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H (2009)
Randy Savage & Mr. Perfect vs. Ric Flair & Razor Ramon (1992)
Triple H vs. Ric Flair (2005)



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nWo documentary was great. Some typical WWE BS like Striker pretending that the Wolfpack was a place for all the real nWo's "rejects", when in fact, all the members were huge stars and left the original nWo on their own as part of the storyline. Also saying that the Wolfpack was the start of the downfall was ridiculous as in 1998 WCW had the most profitable year ever in the history of wrestling with Nash(Wolfpack)/Goldberg/Sting as Top babyfaces for the entire year, along with 30k stadiums with sea of Red and Black colors everywhere as Top sellers most of the year. But overall they did a great job presenting the astronomical impact the nWo had when it started the biggest boom ever. The nWo were so successful and fun to watch because they were a gang of brothers just having fun on TV every week. They lived that life every day, with the limos, the cigars, the money/fame.

You will never see a more natural act than The Outsiders because it wasn't an act, Kevin Nash and Scott Hall were the same characters in real life, with the sarcastic attitude, the charisma, the swagger and all they had to do was promote it on TV. Nash mentioned it when he talked about the awesome nWo black and white skits they did to sell merchandise, how he wanted to stay away from a typical rasslin' character and story. All the creative locations they filmed from to get a more realistic environment like airports, parking lots, production etc. Bischoff was a pioneer in that aspect like he was for a lot of things, so good to see him get some of the credit he deserves. Good summary on all the mainstream personalities they attracted, wearing nWo shirts and coming to Nitro to be a part of it. They should have done more on Hogan, Hall and Nash in their Hollywood and media tours they had around that time. The most amazing thing is watching ESPN after Lebron James moved to Miami and seeing them comparing it to Hollywood Hogan's heel turn forming the nWo after *15 years*, says it all. Cody Rhodes gave a good perspective from someone who was a regular viewer at that time, saying how the nWo made it cool to be a fan, how school was filled with nWo shirts, people saying their catchphrases, doing their hand gestures etc. I liked that most of the people were from that era. New footage from Bischoff, Hall and Hogan would have been good but at least they showed new parts of their 2002 interview. Great to see Nash and Luger there and I hope that they would be there for future DVDs, including a DVD for Nash or The Outsiders. Weird to see Russo on a WWE program, he needs to be on the new Attitude Era DVD. Still hope to see Scott gets better one day so I can see him as the mega charismatic, cool figure, talented performer Bad Guy at least one more time. Watching all these memories, makes me want to see him overcomes all the BS even more.

Too short for the entire period, they could have done much more like showing their mainstream tours, more in depth on the feuds between like Savage/DDP, Wolfpack/Horseman etc, and unique style of their TV program, more backstage segments and stories, off-air footage etc. But for the hour, it was a great doc on the greatest stable of all time. That was an awesome time, for them and for the industry in general.








Rock/Mankind SVS 1998 - ****. SVS 1998 was a tremendous PPV with plenty of great matches and is probably the best booked event in wrestling history, masterpiece creativity. I will put it first with 2001 as a close second.

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Starbuck, where was the house show?

Yeah, I watched that ep of RAW the other night of Austin Vs Rock after SVS 1998. My god was the crowd fucking hot for it.

They knew they were on to something with them both after that. Funny enough, that was the very first wrestling/RAW show I ever watched.

Jim Ross's heel turn in early 1999 is so damn funny. It just didn't work. "WHERE ARE THE GIRLS"
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When is the Attitude Era dvd coming out? I didn't see it on the list of scheduled releases for 2013 unless I missed it.

Also what unreleased (on comps anyway) matches do you want to see on the Attitude Era set?

The cover is pretty bad. It should just be Trish.
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When is the Attitude Era dvd coming out? I didn't see it on the list of scheduled releases for 2013 unless I missed it.

Also what unreleased (on comps anyway) matches do you want to see on the Attitude Era set?

The cover is pretty bad. It should just be Trish.
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When is the Attitude Era dvd coming out? I didn't see it on the list of scheduled releases for 2013 unless I missed it.

Also what unreleased (on comps anyway) matches do you want to see on the Attitude Era set?

The cover is pretty bad. It should just be Trish.
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I've been re-watching Raw from 1998 all this year on WWE Classics On Demand (currently in Nov.) and some of the matches from that year I would like to see some (not all of course) make the set:

Steve Austin/Owen Hart/Cactus Jack/Chainsaw Charlie vs. Triple H/The New Age Outlaws/Savio Vega - No Way Out Of Texas 1998

Steve Austin vs. The Rock - Raw 3/23/1998

The New Age Outlaws vs. Cactus Jack & Chainsaw Charlie (Cage Match) - Raw 3/30/1998

Steve Austin vs. Triple H - Mayhem In Manchester 1998

Kane vs. Undertaker - Raw 6/1/1998

The Rock vs. Vader - Raw 6/15/1998

Undertaker vs. Mankind vs. Kane - Raw 7/6/1998

Kane & Mankind vs. The New Age Outlaws - Raw 7/13/1998

Kane & Mankind vs. Undertaker & Steve Austin – Fully Loaded 1998

Kane & Mankind vs. Undertaker & Steve Austin vs. The Rock & Owen Hart vs. The New Age Outlaws – Raw 8/10/1998

DX vs. Nation Of Domination (Street Fight) – Raw 8/17/1998

Undertaker vs. The Rock – Raw 10/5/1998

The Rock & Steve Austin vs. Undertaker & Kane – Raw 10/12/1998

The Rock vs. Steve Austin – Raw 11/16/1998

The Rock vs. X-Pac - Raw 11/23/1998



A few things I'd like to see from 1999:

The Rock vs. Mankind (Empty Arena Match) – Halftime Heat 1999

Steve Austin vs. Undertaker – Raw 6/28/1999

The Rock vs. Triple H (Cage Match) – Rebellion 1999


Really want HHH vs. Jericho LMS from Fully Loaded 2000 to make the set as well. Maybe Angle vs. Rock from No Mercy 2000 too.
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Just rewatched Austin/HHH 2/3 Falls

....Does anyone not have this match at at least **** 3/4?
I give it ***3/4. Just not a fan of it as most people. Gonna get shot for saying this but I much prefer HBK/HHH Armageddon '03 over it.
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Talking about Survivor Series, I was a huge fan of Survivor Series 2004. I decided not to order live on pay per view and I still kinda regret it to this day. Top to bottom a damn good show. Booker T vs Jbl was a great match and I loved the main event.
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Malenko is awful unless he's working sub 10 minute mat contests with Norman Smiley or La Parka. Minute the match gets past 10 minutes and he has to make his submissions part of a story to develop a flow/story in the match is when it all goes to shreads. I can't tell you how many matches of his I watched for the WCW poll and how good they could have been if he'd have strung a half interesting and compelling control segment.

The aforementioned Smiley match fucking rules though, and its on youtube.
Yay, there's someone else out there who thinks Malenko sucks. Malenko is your typical bland, boring and completely devoid of a personality wrestler. He makes excuses for his lacking of being interest by trying to sell himself as some technical god in the ring. What I'm saying is that the guy just done a bunch of submissions that have no impact on the match or even tell a story.

Here's another guy you guys can give me shit for, Lance Storm. He fucking sucks. There I said it. Why does he suck? See Malenko. Another boring ass wrestling trying to make up for his boring-ness by trying to impress with his knowledge of holds. If only he knew how to properly work a match and make those holds have meaning.
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