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Old 04-05-2012, 07:21 PM   #841 (permalink)
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Wrestlemania 28
Sheamus vs Bryan - *
Kane vs Orton - **3/4
Big Show vs Cody Rhodes - **
Diva Tag - **
Hell in a Cell, Undertaker vs HHH - *****
Team Teddy vs Team Johnny - ***1/4
WWE Title CM Punk vs Chris Jericho - ****1/4
The Rock vs John Cena - ****
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Old 04-05-2012, 08:36 PM   #842 (permalink)
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WrestleMania X-Seven

IC Title: Chris Jericho vs. William Regal - **3/4

The APA & Tazz vs. Right to Censor - **

Hardcore Title: Raven vs. The Big Show vs. Kane - **1/2

European Title: Test vs. Eddie Guerrero - ***

Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit - ***1/2

Women’s Title: Ivory vs. Chyna - *1/2

Vince McMahon vs. Shane McMahon - ***3/4

TLC II - ***3/4

UT/HHH - ***3/4

WWF Title: The Rock vs. Stone Cold – ****1/4


Found a new appreciation for this show on so many levels. WM XIX has often been my favorite WM of all time, but this viewing might have given XIX a run for its money (need to rewatch that too). Such an amazing variety of action, from technical, to spotfests, to soap opera, to weapons, brawls, and a HUGE main event.

McMahon/McMahon is perfectly booked entertainment. So many wonderful moments, like Shane crashing through the table, Trish turning face, Linda getting out of the chair, Foley taking out Vince, and the big finish.

TLC II holds up amazingly for an 11-year old ladder match. So much fun.

UT/HHH is ridiculous, but I love how HHH really looks like the first major threat to to the streak. The sledgehammer shot is awesome, great false finish. This was, if I remember correctly, the first and best time UT surprised his opponent with the LR out of the corner.

Rock/Austin is probably the last GREAT WrestleMania event: an all-out war between two guys in their prime. This is a grudge feud based not on hate, but on being the best, and winning the WWF Title. I don't think any WM main event put over the title more than this one match.

Even more amazing, is that it never gets boring. 28 minutes long, and non-stop action. No rest holds, just brawling, weapons, intense submissions, finishers, near-falls, interference, everything. I actually even like how McMahon didn't try to make it theatrical. He simply came out and helped Austin. The drama came from the post-match handshake. Did it go anywhere? No, but still shocking as hell, and worked for the goals of the challenger.

This is probably the first time I really loved watching this show: such variety, such work-rate. I mean: Angle/Benoit, McMahon/McMahon, TLC II, UT/HHH, and Rock/Austin. That's insane. Great show. Might actually finally be my favorite WM.
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2. Career Threatening Match: Shawn Michaels vs. Ric Flair - WrestleMania XXIV

3. WWE Championship: John Cena vs. CM Punk - Money in the Bank 2011

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Rewatched Triple H vs Taker... I think it was someone in here that said Shawn Michaels's performance was poor. To that person, politely GTFO Shawn was one of the best non-wrestlers in a match ever in this. If I had to slap one of those star ratings on, I'd probably go somewhere like ****1/4. Good stuff.
I actually think that may have been said by more than one person here. I think one of them might have been me, & I pretty much stand by it.

His performance wasn't poor, but he wasn't needed much (outside of those times he worked for Taker, backing Trips off). However, I think his performance looks better to some because the actual wrestling done in this match was so AWFUL.
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:26 PM   #844 (permalink)
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I think the opposite.......sort of. I think Shawn was a nice addition to the match and was needed for some of it, but he just sucked in it.
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I think Shawn... was needed for some of it, but he just sucked in it.
Half & half. He was needed a lot to hold Trips back from attacking Taker to be sure he lived, &/but Shawn was the best-performing wrestler in that Cell.
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Randomness...

I watched this other WWE video with guys talking about the Hell in a Cell match, and I have to say that the deck is stacked against anybody who wrestles Undertaker for the Streak next year--on sheer basis of the magnitude of Undertaker's past 4 matches.

But the question is: was it Undertaker's last match (the HIAC)?

If it's not, it could also be a blessing in disguise and could allow Undertaker to have a less demanding match in terms of physicality and save the last for WrestleMania 30 against Cena. Whilst Jericho/Undertaker wouldn't be as big, it could be really good and it would be a good choice.

But if the WWE manage to pull off Rock/Undertaker...

The Royal Rumble has lost so much value that WWE should actually change the stipulation and award the winner a shot at the Streak. Now, that could be one heck of a storyline. The Streak is bigger than the title at WrestleMania in any way.
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But if the WWE manage to pull off Rock/Undertaker...
If WWE put that match on at WrestleMania I think I would combust the moment it is announced let alone watch it go down.
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I watched this other WWE video with guys talking about the Hell in a Cell match, and I have to say that the deck is stacked against anybody who wrestles Undertaker for the Streak next year--on sheer basis of the magnitude of Undertaker's past 4 matches.
You mean how sheerly bad they were?!

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I don't know that the streak is any better.... But they should change that stip anyway. The greatness of the prize at it stands now depends on who the Champs are. Against a guy like Miz?! Who cares?! Bryan & Punk are both better, but getting a match that isn't a minute long on that big stage sucks.
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^ Only a genius can truly come up with that.
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I actually think that may have been said by more than one person here. I think one of them might have been me, & I pretty much stand by it.

His performance wasn't poor, but he wasn't needed much (outside of those times he worked for Taker, backing Trips off). However, I think his performance looks better to some because the actual wrestling done in this match was so AWFUL.
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I think the opposite.......sort of. I think Shawn was a nice addition to the match and was needed for some of it, but he just sucked in it.
Jeez, really?

Shawn took the match to another level I think. They played a sort of 'slow boil' where they'd do little things like shove him and you knew it was only a matter of time until he lashed out at someone. And where there was that nearfall after the Sweet Chin Music/Pedigree and he just put his hand over his mouth, it made you remember it wasn't just a match between two guys, it was a match between two guys for the streak that ended his career and that his best friend is going up against, but he's going against a guy that everyone respects so much and it was so close to ending because of his interference and... yeah, I thought that was intense.

I don't think the "Please, just end it"s were needed, but whatever. He did the wheedling little needy voice well also.

TJChurch, I wouldn't call the wrestling awful. What makes you say so?
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