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One of the greatest promos ever, mad respect for that motherfucker...

Who takes the cake as the second greatest "total package" (no, not you Lex) ever ? Would it be Austin (even though from a dual in-ring/mic standpoint, Austin only really had one GOAT year and that would be 2001) ? I can't think of anybody else because until 97, Bret sucked dick on the mic, and Shawn was up and down more than a sleazy whore throughout his career. We don't hear enough shit from Taker due to gimmick constraints , but he has clearly proven himself as an all time great mic worker (everybody knows about his outstanding in ring work).
Along with who you mentioned - Savage, Angle, and Eddie spring to mind as guys with the total package.


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HOW DID I FORGET SAVAGE (bangs head off door repeatedly in act of self abuse as punishment) , the guy is legit my 3rd or 4th favorite ever (I flip-flop between him and Punk believe it or not, with HHH and Flair being 1 and 2 respectively). Haven't seen too much of Angle's TNA work, but from what I've heard he's only shown FLASHES of being great with a ton of shit in the middle.

Watching Judgment Day 2007 now, owned it for about 3 months but had no motivation to watch it because it's the definition of an "angle-advancing" PPV and I don't have much interest in that....AT ALL. Not a single "great" match on this card IIRC, but that Flair-Carlito opener is just so damn fun. Fuck Carlito though, legit. He can't hang with da GOAT





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Don't forget Jericho and THE ROCK!
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Angle? nah. Far too much shit he's pumped out to be grouped with the rest of the good ones.

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What I'm asking is, is there anybody besides Flair who is top 10-15 in both in-ring presence AND on the mic. The closest three would HAVE to be Savage, Austin, and Eddie, wouldn't it ? All around I'd DEFINITELY put Savage top 5, one of the best on the mic ever coupled with his unmistakeable consistency and big match performances.





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He might not be as good as the others but he at one period - awesome promos (comedic or intense), super entertaining character (heel or face), and great in the ring. That is a total package, right?


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Best total Packages for me go Flair, Funk, Savage, Austin, Eddie, Lawler in no order. Borderline would be HHH, Punk, Jericho, and Cena (for all the hate cena gets for his character his talent in the ring and on the mic is undeniable)

Flair and Funk are 1 and 1a for me.


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I can't name a good Kurt Angle promo off the top of my head, tbqh.

Funny ones were funny, nothing major. Intensity ones are garbage. Always feels like he tries too hard.

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I can't name a good Kurt Angle promo off the top of my head, tbqh.

funny ones were funny. nothing major. intensity ones are garbage. hated that character.
Angle's one of the most overrated wrestlers of all time in my personal opinion. He's an incredible athlete, but he can't put on a great match where he is the controlling worker. He has to be with a good worker, his best matches were with old school workers, for example Austin, Taker, Benoit etc. Angle has barely any grasp on psychology. His character work is ok for me. His comedic heel character was his best work. His promos are ok, he hasn't had a moment for me where I have to go back and watch it again. It's not that he's bad it's more of the fact that he doesn't deserve the placement he gets by modern wrestling fans as one of the greatest wrestlers of all time.


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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

I thought Angle was quite funny in 2000-2001 as a goofy heel with the three I's stuff and then his work with Austin in the Invasion angle was very entertaining. There was a promo he did before SummerSlam 01 that were he was all fired up that I thought was really good too. The promo he did on Taker in 06, I remember the line "Undertaker, when that bell rings...I don't have a soul either" was delivered strongly.

But I understand some people don't like the way Angle works in the ring and that's fine too. Sometimes I compare him to an action movie with a lot of explosions and gunfire and that is fun to watch too.


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