[Clique]

Originally Posted by Choke2Death

Same here. I don't like it when something is predictable but there are some that get away with it and Flair is an example. The crowd also agrees as they always cheer every time he falls on his face. My favorite of his trademarks is when he overreacts, though.

I feel there's a difference between giving the people something predictable and weak and implementing your routine which is over with the people and what they expect to see from you when they pay money for a Ric Flair match, a Rock promo, etc. It has to be done creatively though and fit nicely within the story which FLair has done tremendously well for well over 30 years. I love the Flair overreactions too.

[SmokeAndMirrors]

I recently purchased Ric Flair: Definitive Collection. Proper pumped to give it a watch because as you guys have said he is so damn entertaining, both in ring and on the mic.

[Obfuscation]

Guerrero?! GUERRERO STOLE MY NUMBER!

*later on*

My wallet?! I'LL GET YOU.

<3 Flair & Eddie.

[Clique]

That's another thing, Flair in the 2000s and beyond is pure entertainment. I don't see any reason why he should have called it quits when people said he was too old for the business. Flair's role in Evolution was perfect, Flair had multiple good matches and performances in WWE and even a strong showing with Foley in TNA, and he's still can be one of the best promos in the business today. He was hilarious in his TNA run. WRESTLING GOD!

[Obfuscation]

Fortune in 2010 was an awesome faction. Flair actually made his TNA run sucessful. Plus he added in making the 2011 Lethal Lockdown match the best. Plus, how could you not mention the hilarious moments when he was ICED. His chugging powers are masterful.

Oh and another one that gave me goosebumps atm: (Game's face is priceless)



MICK FOLEY

[The Beast Incarnate]

Thoughts on the past 5 pages and so on...

- Orton/HBK SS 07 > Batista/Taker SS 07 HOWEVER...... Batista/Taker series > Anything Orton has ever done

- HHH-Maven is awesome, and another match in the formula of "OMGZ SUM SCRUB MIGHTZ BEAT THE CEREBRAL ASSASSIN!" . JR calls a HHH match better than any other wrestler (dead serious. Just look at the overall track record) and this match is definitely no exception. Hunter's 04-06 (pre DX) run is one of the most underrated in history, and the only other time he flashed signs of consistent 2000 goodiness

- Flair is the greatest wrestler at practically EVERYTHING EVER. Old man Flair fucking rocks and I'd honestly give that Flair/Edge match **** 1/4 , seriously it's a personal favorite of mine. Foley might be the best SERIOUS promo guy out there (the "cane dewey" promo is perhaps the greatest serious promo in the history of wrestling) , but when it comes to mic skills, I hold the belief that both Flair and Foley make Rock look like a little bitch on the mic (like I mentioned, the Wrestlemania XXVII opening promo is one of the worst ever). The Flair flop is amazing, check out Flair/Batista vs Benoit/Regal from Unforgiven 2004 , MOTN for sure and another personal favorite.

- In my eyes, Lesnar-HHH is the third greatest Summerslam main event ever IMO, with Taker-Edge being number one and Bulldog-Bret being number 2. My love for Trips and Bork puts it over Punk/Hardy, HBK/Vader (which I fucking ADORE) , Benoit/Orton , and Team Nexus vs Team WWE. Look, I just made a top 6 SS main events ever, wasn't THAT easy ?

- The 2005 RR match is one of the best Rumble's IMO. The Edge/HBK match while good, could have been SO much more (never was the biggest fan of their chemistry). The two championship matches are great while the WWE Championship match fucking rocks and gets *** 3/4 from me. JBL actually wasn't that bad when it came to his in ring work as champion, much better than the likes of Orton's last WWE Championship run, Sheamus, Miz, Cena in 2011, etc. That casket match though.... Fuck that to hell honestly. Does Taker INSIST on being put with these shitty workers over and over again ? If anything though, it shows the confidence that they have in him as a worker, and I'm willing to bet that WWE values him as a top 3 in ring worker ever. Big Show even mentions on his doc how Taker would blast him for the most miniscule things, and how he paid such great attention to detail. Taker is the player/coach of the WWE, and if you can hang with Taker you can go places (look at Orton as the shining example).

- LOVED <3 the backstage number drawing segments at the Rumble during the brand extension. Flair/Eddie was AMAZING, while Trips/Orton had a pretty hilarious exchange in 2006, probably the third best thing they've accomplished together ahahahahaha

[SmokeAndMirrors]

So what does everyone think of he Eddie/Rey/Dominick angle in 2005? Eddie plays the twisted scumbag heel perfectly and Rey is obviously naturally likeable. The feud is just so natural and results in a brilliant Summerslam ladder match.

[Choke2Death]

Originally Posted by Clique

That's another thing, Flair in the 2000s and beyond is pure entertainment. I don't see any reason why he should have called it quits when people said he was too old for the business. Flair's role in Evolution was perfect, Flair had multiple good matches and performances in WWE and even a strong showing with Foley in TNA, and he's still can be one of the best promos in the business today. He was hilarious in his TNA run. WRESTLING GOD!

I think the one problem is the fact he was given such an excellent send off in the WWE with the Hall of Fame induction and the HBK match only for him to go to TNA because he couldn't save his money if his life depended on it. Similarly, many people feel HBK shouldn't return since the Taker match at WM26 was the perfect way to end a legendary career.

I wont hate as long as they can entertain, though.

[The Beast Incarnate]

FUCK that Dominick angle, completely RUINED that ladder match for me. I enjoy the Wrestlemania match between Rey and Eddie over that one just because it didn't have a stupid fucking angle behind it (and the Wrestlemania XXI match is the most overrated fucking match EVER) .

Flair-Foley LMS TNA 10 > Flair-Foley I Quit WWE 06

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Clique]

Flair can do this shit until he says he doesn't want anymore as long as he's entertaining me. If the guy needs money then let him make a living. Of course he's not 1980's Nature Boy but I thought he added a lot of entertainment in the last 10 years or so when people were saying he should have been retired during that period even then.