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post #8181 of 20566 (permalink) Old 10-31-2012, 06:33 PM
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And I'm now at the end of Jan 05 and every Raw has been great. Helps that Eugene's injury rids us of his stupid ass gimmick for a while at least. Hope the rest of the year is as great and I expect that with a fresh Cena, Kurt Angle being drafted and HHH/Flair feuding. Not to mention Edge's rise towards the main event. I think 2005 and 2006 might be the nominations for the "last great Raw" years. Maybe 2008 too but I'm a long way from getting there now.
2005 Raw is such a blindspot for me that I'm considering tacking down full episodes. I've seen a lot of the best stuff (and supposed 'Best' stuff), but there's a lot of stuff with guys like Christian that I haven't seen.

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Ken Kennedy vs Carlito went 10 or 15 minutes on a show that year. No thanks.
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Wasn't HBK/Shelton from 05?





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Yeah it was.

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what's w/the Punk hate, C2D?
lol, I just never liked him (save for 2011's summer but anyone would have gotten my support in his position). He's absolutely unlikable. Even more so since his hair has became short and his entire torso became tattooed up. I always base my judgment on somebody's performance when they are at their job but Punk has just been hard for me to like. That aside, I find him overrated as a wrestler. He is undoubtedly capable of putting on great matches (although he needs a quality opponent) and I give credit where it's due when it comes to that part. Then on the mic, I think he's a good talker but annoying to listen to. And his time at the top in this year has been unbearable which has in turn made it impossible for me to like him. I enjoyed him to an extent in small doses and when he was speaking the truth last summer about the company but otherwise, just not for me...

Still, where it matters the most is in the ring and when he puts on a good match, I can easily give credit. (vs Cena at MITB for example or vs Bryan at OTL for something more recent)

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2005 Raw is such a blindspot for me that I'm considering tacking down full episodes. I've seen a lot of the best stuff (and supposed 'Best' stuff), but there's a lot of stuff with guys like Christian that I haven't seen.
You should go for it. Looking at things from a short view, the whole year seems awesome and I've enjoyed the first month. Are you equally ignorant about Smackdown that year? I've also enjoyed it more than 2004 in the first month with the weird Angle/JBL/Big Show triple threat feud. Lots of unexpected swerves with the heels being top level trolls.
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Yep. Kennedy drew Carlito in 16:00 w/commercial on the 8/20/07 RAW. I remember it so well. Simply because I couldn't believe it was getting so much time.

EDIT ~ Then consider me the exact opposite on the opinion of Punk. The moment I caught a glimpse of him, I was hooked. He's the guy who drew me into Independent wrestling. Overrated? Not at all.

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Last Raw of 07 was legit.





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Kennedy vs Carlito sounds like something I'd put on after I'd committed a despicable act and felt like I deserved some seemingly never ending form of torture.
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

If I put to rank the post AE RAW and SD! years then this would be it:

1. RAW 2004
2. RAW 2005
3. RAW 2002
4. RAW 2008
5. RAW 2011/2003 (joint fifth)
6. RAW 2010
7. RAW 2012
8. RAW 2009

1. SD 2003
2. SD 2005
3. SD 2009
4. SD 2008
5. SD 2004
6. SD 2006
7. SD 2011
8. SD 2007
9. SD 2012

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Kennedy's grab of Carlito's hair to hit the inverted russian leg sweep was the best part of the match. What a good use of his surroundings.

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Kennedy vs Carlito sounds like something I'd put on after I'd committed a despicable act and felt like I deserved some seemingly never ending form of torture.


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EDIT ~ Then consider me the exact opposite on the opinion of Punk. The moment I caught a glimpse of him, I was hooked. He's the guy who drew me into Independent wrestling. Overrated? Not at all.
Hey, it's all cool. Everybody has their opinions and if you like Punk, that's no problem for me!

Also on the topic of Flair's 2004-2006 matches. I just finished watching a Raw match between him and Randy Orton on the go home show for Royal Rumble 05. (24/01/05) Another good match between the two. It seems like Orton was on fire that month. He had a great TV match with HHH 03/01/05 where he won, another decent match with Batista at 17/01/05 and lastly one of the better HHH/Orton matches at the Rumble itself.

And while we're there, I think I've discovered the real reason why Orton's face run flopped. HHH BURYING HIM! :hhh The kid was as over as it gets after his face turn post-SummerSlam, then he lost the title and still managed to remain over with the crowd. Then for the Rumble match, it was his last chance at getting anywhere but per usual, HHH beat him again and he was stuck with Stacy Keibler afterwards until the heel turn brought him back up the ladder. Unlike what the stupid ass Orton haters say, it's not because he was "forced" and crowd didn't care. It might just be backstage problems he had but damn sure nothing to do with his on-screen performance.
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