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post #8171 of 20566 (permalink) Old 10-31-2012, 05:31 PM
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1989 Flair > ALL.

Seriously, that 5 match stretch between the Steamboat matches and the Funk matches are some of the greatest matches ever, and all 5 would probably be in my top 10 WCW matches ever list. Couple those matches with the Windham matches and you have all you need to know about Ric Flair being the greatest of all time.

The guy was wrestling **** 1/4 matches in 2005 for fuck sakes ! I was always a big fan of old man Flair, here is a list of his absolute best from 04-06 (All *** or higher, FUCK YEAH FLAIR):

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vs Flair RAW 06
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Since we're on the topic of years, thought I'd drop this here. I'm now at the start of 2005 and Raw has been excellent while Smackdown has improved from most of 2004. I'm now downloading all the PPVs, Raw & Smackdown episodes up until the Benoit tribute and from then on, I will go back to 1997 and watch until 2002. Then when I end up at the start of 2003 which I've already watched, I'll carry on where I left off in 2007 and the plan is to continue up until Wrestlemania 25. But based on comments here, it might not be quite the nightmare it's said to be to watch the whole year of 2009 so is it recommended that I watch the whole year? I mean, Orton was the top heel so that automatically puts it above 2012 for me and after 09, I've already watched a lot of 2010 (only Raw, though) and the entirety of 2011.
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Smackdown that summer was some of the most fun i've had as a wrestling fan.

I honestly didn't expect Punk to come out on top in his feud with Hardy. The feud concluded on TV which was a cool thing to see. Produced one of the best TV cage matches i've seen.

Raw as alot of people like to point out took a nosedive after backlash, that Cena/Orton feud was horrible. They turned orton into a complete bitch, and there was also the DX reunion that nobody asked for.

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Like 6 days late on this, but top 5 WM main events:

1. Rock/Austin WM17
2. Benoit/HHH/Michaels WM20
3. Taker/Michaels WM26
4. Cena/Michaels WM23
5. Taker/Edge WM24

I haven't watched any of the Hogan matches in a few years, though.

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Oh god, Raw in 2009. Urgh. I went to the TV tapings in Sheffield in November. Raw on Monday, ECW & SD on Tuesday. Monday was horrible. Just horrible. Highlight was seeing Chavo get knocked out by Ricky Hatton though . LOLChavoSucksBAAAAD. Tuesday was incredible fun.



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2009 has Smackdown being great for a good 3-4 months, but its really ECW and Superstars where the real quality shines. Raw pretty much sucked story wise and match quality wise, but ECW had Christian working his arse off against anyone and everyone, with the 2/24 Swagger title match being one of the best matches of the year (and better than HBK/Taker imo). Superstars had some really great matches from the likes of Goldust, Regal and Christian and even Smackdown came into its own with the Punk/Hardy feud and the eventual Loser Leaves Town Cage Match. The Mysterio/Jericho series was also pretty good, but I don't care for it as much as others and vastly prefer the Punk/Mysterio feud in terms of match output.
Smackdown from the draft - the rest of the year was pretty darn good. More so in the Spring-Summer than Fall-Winter, but I was a fan of it all.

ECW & Superstars, aka the shows that everyone wants to see to forget about, were apart of the year too. RAW might have been crap for the majority, but dammit you can't say that entire year was a bust with the quality of matches that those shows were pumping out. ECW in 2009 has prompted me to eventually start a project where I go over and watch all the awesome stuff that came out of it. And subsequently the rest of 2010 too since it ended early.

Flair vs Angle from RAW in 2005 rings as "" in my mind. I have to find that one too.

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It is possible to pinpoint the exact moment of the decline of the blue brand and for me it was Takers return in 09.

Others may disagree but for me the show never recovered from that. I was legit pissed with what they did to punk.

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When was the last time Raw was actually good from a consistent match or story standpoint? 2004? Even that had the Kane/Lita shit and Eugene stuff too. 07 was pretty good for sometime, I guess. But you have the Illegitimate Son angle and not many memorable matches. I'll plead ignorance on 2005, but Raw has really kinda sucked for years. 02-03 Raw is possibly my least favourite period of mainstream wrestling TV ever (well, probably not compared to 2000 WCW). And Brian Gewirtz was the head of writing in all this shit? I'm sorry but thank fuck he's no longer in that position.

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Thanks for bringing up the Punk/Taker feud. Gives me a great reason to watch 09 and SD in 2010 as well. Seeing Punk get buried...

And I'm now at the end of Jan 05 and every Raw has been great. Helps that Eugene's injury rids us of his stupid ass gimmick for a while at least. Hope the rest of the year is as great and I expect that with a fresh Cena, Kurt Angle being drafted and HHH/Flair feuding. Not to mention Edge's rise towards the main event. I think 2005 and 2006 might be the nominations for the "last great Raw" years. Maybe 2008 too but I'm a long way from getting there now.
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RAW 2007 was garbage pardon the first few months having a match or two worth checking out. Cena, Michaels, Edge, & Orton. Not a surprise they were the focus of the show.

Jeff Hardy vs Shelton Benjamin had a solid TV match in September. There's a late part of the year highlight.

Ken Kennedy vs Carlito went 10 or 15 minutes on a show that year. No thanks.

what's w/the Punk hate, C2D?

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