[Gamblor]

Originally Posted by Hailsabin

Barrett/Ryder from 9/28?

Yep. Here it is for anyone wanting to kill 3 minutes:

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Hmm. Interesting selection. I only have it at *. Was a moderately lengthed squash.

It still was loads better than Show/Orton on that show.

[Gamblor]

I loved the pace and the back and fourth action. Just an awesome fun 3 minute match I could literally sit back and watch anytime. Barrett's backbreaker and that clothesline at the end on Ryder were both sick. Ryder sold The Souvenir like death, and I loved it.

I don't really have anything bad to say about the match, besides the fact... well... it only goes on 3 minutes.

[The Beast Incarnate]

I'd take a look at it because I'm a big Ryder fan, but I can't stand Barrett so... Decisions, decisions.... I'll watch it before class tomorrow

We need more people like us in the GOAT forum, honestly. We need a more knowledgeable and less Rock-Austin draw war based perspective on things. I wanna see greatness judged by in-ring prowess and mic skills (ACTUAL MIC SKILLS) , not on ratings (because it makes absolutely no sense to judge it on that).

On a side note, I love this overrated/underrated game, I'm gonna start asking the question about everything from now on

[Ether]

I had some Rock mark telling me in the other thread that Rock was always a better technical wrestler than Austin, what a joke

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Originally Posted by The Sandrone

I loved the pace and the back and fourth action. Just an awesome fun 3 minute match I could literally sit back and watch anytime. Barrett's backbreaker and that clothesline at the end on Ryder were both sick. Ryder sold The Souvenir like death, and I loved it.

I don't really have anything bad to say about the match, besides the fact... well... it only goes on 3 minutes.

Yeah, it's good stuff for what was given. Shows me that a match of decent length between the two would be worth a watch. Both are underrated workers, imo.

Length doesn't always matter however. (you'll like this example) Danielson vs Sandow from the past Smackdown was . Only 4:55. I have it at **. I want another match asap.

Originally Posted by K1ngOfK1ngs

I'd take a look at it because I'm a big Ryder fan, but I can't stand Barrett so... Decisions, decisions.... I'll watch it before class tomorrow

We need more people like us in the GOAT forum, honestly. We need a more knowledgeable and less Rock-Austin draw war based perspective on things. I wanna see greatness judged by in-ring prowess and mic skills (ACTUAL MIC SKILLS) , not on ratings (because it makes absolutely no sense to judge it on that).

On a side note, I love this overrated/underrated game, I'm gonna start asking the question about everything from now on

This thread is a diamond in the "rough" for the WWE section. "Rough" implies the copious amounts of shit that is discussed on a daily basis in said section.

Yeah, go for it. You have a knack for asking the right questions in here and always sparking a discussion, haha.

Originally Posted by Ether

I had some Rock mark telling me in the other thread that Rock was always a better technical wrestler than Austin, what a joke

Oh my. I'm surprised you even bothered with the topic. You know you're going to get asinine comments like that 99% of the time.

[Ether]

I post alot in the thread just to laugh because it just goes in a circle

Austin mark A: 316 shirt sales argument
Rock mark B: 2000 ratings argument
Austin Mark A: That wouldn't have happened without Austin
Rock mark B: Rock was always a bigger star, even as a heel

And it just goes back and forth

That thread got me thinking though, what were Austin's best pre WWE matches iyo?

[The Lady Killer]

Yeah that GOAT thread is awful. This is really the only WWE section I bother viewing anymore.

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Originally Posted by K1ngOfK1ngs

I'd take a look at it because I'm a big Ryder fan, but I can't stand Barrett so... Decisions, decisions.... I'll watch it before class tomorrow

We need more people like us in the GOAT forum, honestly. We need a more knowledgeable and less Rock-Austin draw war based perspective on things. I wanna see greatness judged by in-ring prowess and mic skills (ACTUAL MIC SKILLS) , not on ratings (because it makes absolutely no sense to judge it on that).

I don't know how you feel about fast paced, hard hitting 3 minute matches, but if you like em', you'll like the match.

Honestly, it's pointless to try and argue things when it comes to Rock and Austin with their marks, especially Rock marks since they have more numbers on the forums with Rock's recent returns (I have no doubt more Austin marks will come when he comes back to face Punk). I'm a big mark for both guys, but there is no arguing with them. One says Austin at his peak is the biggest draw of all time. The other says Rock in 1999 surpassed Austin, broke records, etc. "Austin brought in the AE." "Rock kept it going and surpassed Austin." blah blah blah blah blah.

And as far as trying to change the subject to stuff when it doesn't come to drawing, it's just as fruitless of an effort. The main reason is a lot of these people who always argue about ratings will only stick to just those, ratings, numbers, etc., and to be fair, that is the only factual way to really judge someone on the GOAT list. Matches, mic work, etc. is all subjective. So they don't see a point in arguing the technical aspects of a match or promo and would rather just quote numbers from buyrates, ratings, quotes from Meltzer, and all that stuff. I'd like to see things a little more subjective based though as the numbers have been argued to the death not just in that thread, but for the last year or so.

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Yeah, it's good stuff for what was given. Shows me that a match of decent length between the two would be worth a watch. Both are underrated workers, imo.

Length doesn't always matter however. (you'll like this example) Danielson vs Sandow from the past Smackdown was . Only 4:55. I have it at **. I want another match asap.

Really liked the match. **1/2 for me. Still wanted a beard-pulling tug-of-war between the two. Would've been ********** if that happened.

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His work with the Dangerous Alliance in WCW of course. That's where the gold is. Oh, and Hollywood Blonds too. Granted one of their tag title defenses vs Arn Anderson & Paul Roma sucks. I blame Roma.