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Old 10-29-2012, 04:06 PM   #8041 (permalink)
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Is it the infamous back breaker on the steps spot ?
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:34 PM   #8042 (permalink)
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Sheamus vs Show is the match of the night for me too, and probably the best match in WWE this year since the Bryan vs Punk match in Over the Limit.

WWE MATCH OF THE YEAR:

1. John Cena vs Brock Lesnar - Extreme Rules
2. Dean Ambrose vs William Regal - FCW 15/7
3. CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan - Over The Limit
4. Sheamus vs Daniel Bryan - Extreme Rules
5. Sheamus vs Big Show - Hell in a Cell
6. CM Punk vs Mark Henry - Raw 2/4
7. CM Punk vs John Cena - Night of Champions
8. Christian vs Drew McIntyre - Superstars ¿?

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I remember some Bryan vs Show matches at the begining of the year that I enjoyed a lot.
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1) The Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels ~ *****

2) The Undertaker/Steve Austin vs Kane/Mankind ~ N/R

3) The Undertaker vs Mankind ~ ****1/2

4) Kane vs Mankind ~ **

5) The Undertaker vs Big Bossman ~ DUD

6) Cactus Jack vs Triple H ~ ****1/2

7) The Undertaker vs Steve Austin vs The Rock vs Triple H vs Kurt Angle vs Rikishi ~ ****

8) Triple H vs Chris Jericho ~ ***1/2

9) The Undertaker vs Brock Lesnar ~ ****3/4

10) Triple H vs Kevin Nash ~ ***1/4

11) Triple H vs Shawn Michaels ~ ***

12) Triple H vs Batista ~ ****1/2

13) The Undertaker vs Randy Orton ~ ****

14) Triple H & Shawn Michaels vs Big Show, Vince McMahon, & Shane McMahon ~ ***1/4

15) The Undertaker vs Batista ~ **3/4

16) The Undertaker vs Edge ~ ****1/2

17) The Undertaker vs CM Punk ~ ***

18) John Cena vs Randy Orton ~ **3/4

19) Triple H & Shawn Michaels vs Cody Rhodes & Ted Dibiase Jr ~ *

20) Randy Orton vs Sheamus ~ ****

21) The Undertaker vs Kane ~ *

22) The Undertaker vs Triple H ~ ****3/4



Need to see the 2011 ones & Punk vs Ryback. The HIAC '09 ones are from the only time I viewed it. Those might change upon a needed re-watch. Rest are done deals. I already know where I stand in the minority with one of these matches. Gonna steal K1ngOfK1ngs underrated/overrated thing because I like it. STOLEN~

Most Underrated:

1) Randy Orton vs Sheamus - Hell in a Cell 2010
Awesome, awesome match. Was into everything they did to make it work. Their matches starting from January to October really flourished. This was the defining bout in their series.

2) DX vs Big Show/McMahons - Unforgiven 2006
Seen this match a dozen times and every time I never see what fans have to gripe about. I thought this accomplished everything it set out to do and more. Honestly one of the more brutal cell matches when you really think about it. Not just because of the whole 'head in ass' spot either. I'm serious. Good match.

3) Triple H vs Kevin Nash - Bad Blood 2003
Very underrated and I know why. Kevin Nash. The beginning pace of the match sure wasn't brisk, but who says a match needs to be jammed with fast paced mega spots to define what it's trying to do? These guys made it work. Made up for the garbage that was their Judgment Day match too. So going from a DUD to ***1/4 was a vast improvement. Always loved the use of the tool box in this one. Nash took ALL of that hammer shot. Plus this had the FOLEY factor. That's always worth something in my book.


Most Overrated:

1) The Undertaker vs Batista - Survivor Series 2007
I just don't see it. In all of their other matches in 2007, yes, they're great. Love them. This one...eh..not so much. Always struggle to get into it. Never care. I know a lot like to say HHH/HBK Hell in a Cell is boring (fair enough), but to me this one really is. Felt like all the energy from both men were gone during the entire thing. Now it's not the worst HIAC out there, far from it, but it's an underwhelming one for me. Easily deserving of Most Overrated in my book.


Top 5 Hell in a Cell Matches:

1) The Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels - Badd Blood 1997
2) The Undertaker vs Brock Lesnar - No Mercy 2002
3) The Undertaker vs Mankind - King of the Ring 1998
4) Triple H vs Batista - Vengeance 2005
5) The Undertaker vs Edge - Summerslam 2008

This gimmick has worked more often than not. That's why I'm such a big fan. Sure the last few years have taken a hit to the gimmick, but not all of them had to rely on blood to give it something. Taker/Edge is the example there. But, I do feel the WWE needs to make this match feel huge again. WrestleMania was a perfect job. They did it there. An annual PPV to where championship matches get placed in it, meh, not the best. Especially if it is a new program. Last two years they've given us matches that really had no business being inside the Cell.
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Is it the infamous back breaker on the steps spot ?
Hahahahaha , somebody got what I was talking about. That makes absolutely NO. FUCKING. SENSE!

Anywhoways, rewatched Show-Sheamus and gave the official **** stamp of approval to it. What a fucking match, I've been gushing about this match for like the past 20 hours. This inspired me to post my UPDATED top 10 WWE matches of 2012....

Top 10 WWE Matches of 2012 (as of Oct 29)

1. CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan (Over the Limit) : **** 3/4
2. John Cena vs Brock Lesnar (Extreme Rules) : **** 3/4

3. CM Punk vs Chris Jericho (Wrestlemania XXVIII) : **** 1/2
4. Triple H vs The Undertaker (Wrestlemania XXVIII) : **** 1/2

5. CM Punk vs John Cena (Night of Champions) : **** 1/4
6. Triple H vs Brock Lesnar (Summerslam) : **** 1/4
7. Sheamus vs Daniel Bryan (Extreme Rules) : **** 1/4

8. CM Punk vs Mark Henry (4/2/12) : ****
9. Sheamus vs The Big Show (Hell in a Cell) : ****
10(TIE). CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan (Money in the Bank) : ****
CM Punk vs Chris Jericho (Extreme Rules) : ****

That's pretty much the ****+ matches from the E' at this point. CM Punk is hands down once again my WOTY and I don't see how anybody else could catch him with only two months left to go. Seems pretty impossible from where I sit for sure. The MVP of the company right now, I truly believe he's approaching the status (fuck it, he's already there) that they NEED him.

When Taker, Trips, and HBK stopped wrestling or working part-time at Wrestlemania XXVI, it seems that Punk has taken over the role as the 7 day a week showstopper.

Curious that we talk about matches so much but.... Who do you guys have as your WOTY from 93-now ? Seems like that topic doesn't get discussed as much as it should. When I say WOTY I mean in-ring, btw.
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Damn forgot about Regal/Ambrose II, that's definitely knocking about in the top 5 for the year and definitely something I could see being better than Sheamus/Show, if only for the respective performances by Regal and Ambrose as well as the subtle callbacks to elements of the year long feud.

WOTY 93-2012 (worldwide)

93 - Genichiro Tenryu (USA only, Vader)
94 - Mitsuharu Misawa (USA only, Dustin Rhodes)
95 - Mitsuharu Misawa
96 - Shinya Hashimoto (USA only, Lord Steven Regal)
97 - Eddie Guerrero
98 - N/A
99 - N/A
00 - Toshiaki Kawada (USA only, Tajiri)
01 - Steve Austin
02 - Yoshihiro Takayama (USA, N/A)
03 - Kenta Kobashi (USA, Bryan Danielson)
04 - Eddie Guerrero
05 - Eddie Guerrero
06 - Finlay
07 - John Cena
08 - Nigel McGuinness
09 - Rey Mysterio/Christian
10 - Black Terry (USA, CM Punk)
11 - Mark Henry
12 - Finlay

1998 and 1999 are complete blindspots for me. No-one stands out from WWF/WCW/ECW, and puro/lucha is pretty much non existant to me as well. I guess I'd probably go for one of Misawa or Kawada but I can't recall enough matches from the respective years that stand out as merit for awarding them the title. New Japan has me saying I should pimp Hashimoto or someone, but truth be told I might have an Ishikawa/Ikdea or other shoot style guy as #1 for either year. Think Kiyoshi Tamura had a couple of really strong matches in both years.

2002 I can't think of a single American based wrestler who stands out amongst the rest. Rock had some blinding moments, Lesnar was pretty good and probably has the strongest resume between Summerslam and No Mercy, but that's more a case of him appearing more of a frontrunner than actually delivering consistent performances to justify WOTY status.

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Old 10-29-2012, 04:45 PM   #8046 (permalink)
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HHH/Taker, Mania 28 - *****
Cena/Lesnar, Extreme Rules - ****3/4
Punk/Bryan, Over the Limit - ****1/2

That's the only 3 I'm certain of right now. I'm going to rewatch the rest of the contenders at the end of the year over Xmas break to come up with a definitive list though. Looking forward to it.
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Nothing is topping Cena/Lesnar for me. Punk may have ruled this year, but Cena/Lesnar is far too incredible to be topped. God damn what a match.
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Just ordered Armageddon '07, Flair: Definitive Collection and Mysterio: Biggest Little Man off Silvervision.
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I'm going to try this one with the 2012 matches.

1. Undertaker/HHH (Wrestlemania 28) - ****3/4
2. Brock Lesnar/John Cena (Extreme Rules) - ****1/2
3. Sheamus/Daniel Bryan (Extreme Rules) - ****1/4
4. CM Punk/Daniel Bryan (Over the Limit) - ****1/4
5. The Rock/John Cena (Wrestlemania 28) - ****
6. Sheamus/Randy Orton/Chris Jericho/Alberto del Rio (Over the Limit) - ****
7. Sheamus/Big Show (Hell in a Cell) - ***3/4
8. CM Punk/John Cena (Night of Champions) - ***3/4
9. Brock Lesnar/HHH (SummerSlam) - ***1/2
10. Chris Jericho/Dolph Ziggler (SummerSlam) - ***1/2
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If Lesnar had won it's a 5* match for me. That may sound petty but I don't care lol. I'm a huge Cena mark but fuck did that ending ever piss me off. I'm just happy that it hasn't been able to ruin the rest of the match for me and what a match it is. Something truly special and rare in todays WWE. Brock's physical presence is just on another level all together. It can't be said enough how legit scary this dude is. When he walked past me at Raw I was just blown away. He's HUGE. Ryback can suck a dick compared to Lesnar lol.
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