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Old 10-29-2012, 12:04 AM   #8001 (permalink)
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i love the bro kick

as for the cell match, it suffered from trying to be michaels vs taker, but not trying hard enough, neither guy being as talented, ending too quickly, and being too stupid

coulda been a good match if done right.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:15 AM   #8002 (permalink)
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Hell in a Cell 2012 ; First Take

Orton vs Del Rio : *** 1/4

Good solid opener we had on our hands here. On replay the ending RKO didn't actually look all that impressive so fuck that noise. Del Rio seems to be the king of matches that are good/okay but not classics at all. Where he goes from here is a sight to behold as they already gave him two world titles and a Royal Rumble win. He needs a PPV win, like NOW. Great psychology here for sure as Orton is also a booking disaster waiting to happen.

Team HELL NO vs Team Rhodes Scholars : ***

Another good contest, love the emphasis that Hunter is supposedly imposing on the tag division. The ending makes sense for a go home match at Survivor Series or perhaps a 4 way/3 way elimination match involving two other teams. Bryan steals the show once again, showing why he's a top 3 performer in the world right now for sure. Entertainment all the way from these two, great.

Kofi Kingston vs The Miz :***

NO expectations going into this, so naturally this is a pleasant surprise for me. Two things I loved about the match and one thing I hated should wrap up my thoughts on this match as a whole ; I loved the opening sequence as it was fast, made sense to the story, and AWSUM. I also loved the knee work and the sliding off of the pad by Miz (psychology in a Miz match LOLWUT?). What I hated was that ending sequence, fuck that shit. All of this great limb work and you basically ignore it by having Kofi win with a move like that... FUCK YOU.

Cesaro vs Gabriel : ** 1/2

Really just a showcase for Gabriel to fly around and for Cesaro to show off his impressive moveset. With some decent time, these two could easily pull off a ***+ performance but to condense a guy like Cesaro to such a miniscule amount of time is ridiculous. Cesaro probably has the best looking moveset in the company though, and looks like a future star for sure. I already consider him better than BORRETT and a ton of other heels, hope his stock rises within the company.

PTP vs Reycara : ** 1/4

I literally remember NOTHING about this match already. How sad. All I remember is it being not that entertaining, nobody caring, and Cara's botch. WHY IS REY TEAMING WITH SIN CARA ? Rey should have been the one taking on Cesaro, now THAT has some potential right there. These two teams will probably be involved in an elimination match somehow at the next PPV. Not a bad match at all, just....Nobody cared.

Show vs Fella : *** 3/4

FUCK YEAH. Heavyweight slugfest in this mo' fo' , Sheamus and Show just showed you what a heavyweight formula is supposed to look like. What is up with Big Show and these amazing October performances (let's just look at his track record since 2008 ; vs Undertaker, vs Batista/Rey, vs Henry, vs Sheamus, all *** 1/2+) ..... SERIOUSLY. These two just worked wonders at a great pace for a long fucking time. The near falls were some of the most convincing that I have ever seen, as there were 3 instances where I truly believed the match was over. I'm gonna stop gushing over this great match for now and watch it later, because I REALLY think it's going to **** and into my top 10-15 on the year.

Divas Three Way : N/A (Don't Care)

I actually didn't watch this. Went and made myself a protein shake instead with a pro-bar on the side. That's probably more interesting than this was.

Punk vs Ryback : ***

Liked this more than probably everybody. Thought it ran WAYYY too short than what it should have, and I also think that Ryback isn't ready to be put in this spot yet (mainly because he sucks in the ring). Punk just went out there and made magic happen once again, getting a pretty good match out of Ryback given the circumstances he was placed under. Punk probably hit his best looking elbow EVER tonight as well, as his offense looked better than it ever has. The ending was MEH and I think we could have used another 5 minutes for some better storytelling/false finishes, but I thought this was a good main event (and that Punk has done it AGAIN, this is his Cena/Khali moment IMO).

Overall:

This was a good show for sure. All of the major matches were ***+ , and we got the AWESOME Show-Sheamus match. That's all I'm going to say for now as I'm going to watch it again sometime later. On a first glance, I enjoyed this more than NOC (which had that terrible 4 way opener bah gawd), but I'll know more at a second glance for sure. MOST IMPORTANTLY, I'm excited as to where booking goes from here.

7/10

Random note : My best friend is a big time wrestling fan (he even gets on here from time to time, or he used to lol), and I told him about how in 3 weeks we're gonna go down to the theatre and watch Survivor Series with a few hundred people , and how Ryback hopefully won't be champion... His text back said this : "Ryback...His name is RYBACK... It's like they took Big Vito and gave him Rhyno's gimmick, the dude couldn't even get to *** with Punk and that's saying ALOT, if this guy is the future then count me out of wrestling". I thought it was hilarious.

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Old 10-29-2012, 12:25 AM   #8003 (permalink)
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IF PUNK CAN'T CARRY YOU TO A *** MATCH THEN YOU SUCK.

Ryback has worked nothing but squash matches all year. A good rating like that would actually be a strong improvement to the norm...
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:28 AM   #8004 (permalink)
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I still think that match had potential. they were holding back. both men can do SO much more.
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RyBerg doesn't belong in the main event yet. God, when will WWE learn the great virtue of patience. It's not like after Austin stopped being the Ringmaster he was wrestling in the main event 6months later (Granted comparing Ryback to Austin is in-fucking-sane,but WWE's trying to make him their next guy). Also this ME solidified the need to stop these gimmick PPVs. They've basically killed all the prestige Taker/HHH put into the Cell earlier this year with that debacle. Bad story and just overall decent (at BEST) match.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:43 AM   #8006 (permalink)
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I still think that match had potential. they were holding back. both men can do SO much more.
Mind boggling as to why they would hold back on PPV.

btw, how long did it go - 10 minutes or so?
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:47 AM   #8007 (permalink)
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Overall, I will remember Ryback/Punk more for the aftermath, instead of the actual match.
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They went 11 minutes in a pretty average Hell In A Cell match. I don't really want to see a rematch between these two either. Maybe they do a big Survivor Series tag in three weeks where Punk takes the pin to Ryback or Cena, Punk finishes up with Cena at TLC, and whoever wins that can turn to The Rock for the Rumble in January.
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The HIAC main event between Ryback/Punk suffered from so much. The match felt so short, it just kinda ended. Ryback's flaws as a worker really showed tonight, the lack of originality in his offense. Sure he plays an unstoppable monster but I felt no drama at all in the match. It's like they tried to force HBK/Taker Bad Blood into a short time. Punk tried his best to try to get a decent match out of Ryback but there wasn't much there for me to get excited about or want to watch again. Punk's an incredible scared to death heel though, the fear in punk's eyes was awesome. The finish didn't bother me as much as it would some people because the finish was a product of horrendous booking leading up to the match. It's pretty much the only way they could book it keeping punk champ and ryback looking unstoppable, without using a lesnar appearance. **1/2

Now let's get to the MOTN which was Sheamus/Big Show, A great big man brawl is something that is always fun to watch especially when it's implemented well and you have 2 unstoppable forces and you just build the drama in the match. Started off kinda slow, but the finishing stretch had me on the edge of my seat. The brogue kick false finish was amazing. The finish was really creative as well, really made the KO punch look incredibly dangerous and could be hit at any point in the match. The only truly bad part of the match was that horrendous ddt spot, that was ugly. ***3/4 borderline ****

I still have my reservations of Big Show being a world champ in 2012

One final note, can we please get rid of this Gimmick PPV and only have a HIAC match if it's the climax or end all match in a long and hard fought feud. I can't take this you are in a HIAC match with a person you just started feuding with a few weeks ago.
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I missed a bit of Sheamus/Show, and I just heard Sheamus did the White Noise on Big Show. I cant believe that if its true. Props to Sheamus.
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