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Old 10-25-2012, 06:34 PM   #7791 (permalink)
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Top 10 WM Main events for me:

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1) Austin vs. Rock WM17
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2) Undertaker vs. HBK WM26
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3) Benoit vs. HBK vs. HHH WM20
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4) Undertaker vs. Edge WM24
5) Lesnar vs. Angle WM19
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6) Cena vs. HBK WM23
7) Hogan vs. Savage WM5
8) Hogan vs. Warrior WM6
9) Hart vs. HBK WM12
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10) Austin vs. HBK WM14
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:42 PM   #7792 (permalink)
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Michaels/Taker and then Cena/Michaels for me as the two best Wrestlemania Main Events. Austin/Rock would probably be #3 even if I'm not crazy about it (feels more and more like Austin's performance carries it to the heights people perceive it). Lesnar/Angle isn't bad but never grabbed me, HHH/Batista is pretty mediocre, Edge/Taker just does nothing for me aside from the Charles Robinson sprint (though I blame my abhorrence for Edge as a worker for not liking it at all), HHH/Orton and HHH/Jericho shouldn't need explaining. Austin/HBK might a little underrated now I think about it, wouldn't call it close to great but it probably stacks up better in comparison compared to a ton of other Wrestlemania Main Events. Cena/HHH from Wrestlemania 22 is probably my third favourite from WM 21-28, with 26 and 23 being #1 and #2.

WM 20 triple threat would probably be #4 after Austin/Rock, I admire the story but as a stand alone match it hasn't really progressed with each rewatch, if anything its sinking. I probably put that down to the HHH/HBK middle section which whilst it served a dual story purpose, just really isn't going to make my like the match as much as I when I was younger. Pretty shitty drawn out 'epic' brawling between them two just takes me out of it. Benoit is pretty much flawless in his performance throughout and pretty much carries the bruntload of the story and workrate in the match, though the SCM as Benoit has the sharpshooter on HHH will always remain a pretty tremendous visual.

Hogan/Savage might round out my top 5 all things considered:

1. Undertaker/HBK
2. Cena/HBK
3. Austin/Rock
4. HHH/HBK/Devil's favourite Demon
5. Hogan/Savage

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Old 10-25-2012, 06:43 PM   #7793 (permalink)
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1. Rock/Austin 17
2. Cena/Michaels 23
3. Hogan/Warrior 6
4. HHH/Michaels/Benoit 20
5. Hogan/Savage 5

Probably. I haven't watched the Hogan matches in years. Watched some of the 3-way earlier this year but didn't finish it. 3 ways aren't really my thing (in wrestling ). Ah fuck it. I'll turn off the computer and watch the 3-way right now. Cena/Michaels I watched last about 2 1/2 years ago, and IDK if I'll prefer it to Hogan/Warrior next time. I'm just assuming I would. I liked Cena/HHH enough three years ago to put it there, but I don't remember much about it and have no idea how it'll hold up while I'm fairly certain everything on that list would. Only thing I'm 100% sure of is #1 would without a shadow of a doubt be Rock/Austin.
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Wait, what is your opinion on Michaels/Taker WM26?

Hogan/Savage and Hogan/Warrior have special places in my heart and are bonafide main events for a big show like WrestleMania. WrestleMania has its aura because of matches like those and I believe they both hold up today.
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Hogan/Warrior is a blindspot for me, all things considered though I wouldn't say its out of the question it could be close to the top 5, though I think my fondness for Savage over Warrior as a worker will always make me appreciate Hogan/Savage that little bit more.

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Cena vs Michaels was once at ****1/2 for me. Then I rewatched it and didn't like it nearly as much as I once did. Still gets a **** for me and I do love it for what it was. Saddened that it seemed to go down in quality for me. Don't know why either. That STFU counter into the small package still RULES all. As a guy who rooted for Cena during that, it made me jump.

Cena vs HHH WrestleMania 22 sucks. Never liked it. If I'm gonna watch a match to be worked like that, I'll watch Cena/Rock from 28 instead.
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:51 PM   #7797 (permalink)
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HBK/Taker is probably third best for me. I need to rewatch that one, though. Wasn't too into it last time and I just like WM25 a lot more.

Also, am I the only one who doesn't like HBK/Cena at WM23? It feels like a lengthy squash match where HBK carries all the offense for 25 minutes then it reaches higher potentials in the last 4, 5 minutes but ends before it can get better. And unlike Cena/Khali, there's no David/Goliath story to it so that HBK destroying Cena all match long can be understandable. It's just Exhibit A for what Cena's matches are hated on for. ("He gets beat the entire match then wins with a couple of moves")
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Hogan/Savage and Hogan/Warrior have special places in my heart and are bonafide main events for a big show like WrestleMania. WrestleMania has its aura because of matches like those and I believe they both hold up today.
I watched it once a month after it happened and didn't really dig it THAT much. I actually didn't think it was that much lower than something like Hogan/Savage so I could see a place for it in the top 5. I probably should have mentioned that in my post and I'll definitely watch it again sometime. NO. You know what? Tomorrow. I have the Mania 20 DVD in like I said I would and I will watch Michaels/Taker tomorrow. NO BS!
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Going off memory I really felt they captured the story of Cena being the young phenom on the cusp of super stardom, and having to ultimately prove himself against the guy who always brings his best for the big occasions wonderfully. Thought HBK controlling made sense to get across his experience as well as Cena having to overcome and prove himself working from the bottom up rather than controlling a majority of the match and not being able to get the win: the leg selling always seems to irk some but its never bothered me. Feels like a temporary strategy from Shawn to keep control rather than what he's pinning his hopes on, and Cena shaking it and progressively moving better over time works for me given the short length of time its targeted. Finishing stretch was pretty choice as well I thought.

Cena/HHH is one of those matches I recall liking a lot, but one I'm in no hurry to revisit. In many ways I'm expecting to like it less, given 2006 Cena isn't really close to what he would become by the years end and into 2007, and HHH sinks lower and lower as a worker everyday for me outside of a few matches and performances, so its more a case of not wanting to put myself through a 20 minute match I'm not truly expecting to enjoy.

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I'll definitely watch it again sometime. NO. You know what? Tomorrow. I have the Mania 20 DVD in like I said I would and I will watch Michaels/Taker tomorrow. NO BS!



On Michaels/Cena, what I took away from witnessing the match live at Ford Field is that Michaels giving Cena a wrestling lesson or this was Cena's greatest test. I recall a comment made by JR on the Heartbreak & Triumph documentary that this match was "finishing school" for Cena and how he managed to endure a "perfect wrestling match" from Shawn Michaels was a great story. I don't have a problem with Cena's knee selling since Michaels didn't do that much damage to it imo and Cena's all about resiliency especially after the wars he had been through before arriving in the main event with The Showstopper. I so agree with the comment that the last 4-5 minutes are epic stuff especially Michaels' selling, the near-falls (the roll-up from the STF), and the STF finish was actually look good too like he was choking Michaels.
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