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Old 10-25-2012, 09:48 AM   #7771 (permalink)
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I know I'm in the minority but I really enjoyed this match too. Things started off slow but it established Show as a monster and Cena as the underdog. It's your typical formulaic Cena performance spiced up with some sweet bumping from both men. This really gets good around the time the interference happens. Overbooked fun that will leave you wondering what will happen next. ★★★½
Agree. I think people hate on it mainly because of the storyline. As I said before, it wasn't the typical super Cena comeback because John Cena needed help from 4 people to beat the Big Show.
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:54 AM   #7772 (permalink)
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I never even watched Show/Cena cage. They've had a bazillion matches together in the past with maybe only 2 that are worth seeing. So another match with a horrible storyline attached to it didn't make me want to see it. Add on to that the fact that cage matches on PPV 99% of the time absolutely fucking suck these days... there is zero chance of me ever watching it tbh.
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:03 AM   #7773 (permalink)
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I never even watched Show/Cena cage. They've had a bazillion matches together in the past with maybe only 2 that are worth seeing. So another match with a horrible storyline attached to it didn't make me want to see it. Add on to that the fact that cage matches on PPV 99% of the time absolutely fucking suck these days... there is zero chance of me ever watching it tbh.
WM 20 match was fun to watch
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:03 AM   #7774 (permalink)
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Watching some stuff from december 2001.

The booker T/Austin feud is

I almost died watching the church skits with booker playing bingo and hiding in the confesional with the hot chick confessing. Booker manages to escape with a group of Nuns

Honestly prefer this over their supermarket brawl 4 days earlier.
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:19 AM   #7775 (permalink)
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Wrestlemania XX
Triple H vs. Chris Benoit vs. Shawn Michaels - *****


Beautiful match. The aftermath is truly heartbreaking though.
The aftermath has only made it that much more emotional to watch. Still the greatest ending to a Wrestlemania IMO.
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Old 10-25-2012, 12:09 PM   #7776 (permalink)
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WrestleMania XX is like an okay 3 hour movie that could have been a great 2 hour movie. It has more dead weight than any other major PPV I've seen. Cut out the two tag title matches, the first Divas match, the Cruiserwight open, Jesse Ventura coming out for no reason, and the card looks like this:

Triple-Threat Match for the World Heavyweight Championship
Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit

The Undertaker vs. Kane

WWE Championship
Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle

Goldberg vs. Brock Lesnar

Women's Championship
Victoria vs. Molly Holly

The Rock & Sock Connection vs. Evolution

Chris Jericho vs. Christian

United States Championship
The Big Show vs. John Cena

Cut out 3 minutes of Cena/Show and make it more of a sprint, move Goldberg/Lesnar closer to the top and make sure they have an actual fucking match, and you have a lean card with one filler, a hot opener, a good undercard, and four legitimate main events.
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Old 10-25-2012, 12:37 PM   #7777 (permalink)
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The Rock N Sock match at WM 20 is brilliant.

Lance Storm raves about that match

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Flair, Batista, Orton vs. Rock & Sock Connection: This match personifies what this business is all about. For all those people on Twitter that keep asking me about favorite moves or finishers, and don't understand when I say it's not about moves or finishers, this match is your explanation. This was an incredible match that had the people excited the whole way through and consisted of very little outside of punches and clotheslines. Wrestling is about making fans care about the people involved and then taking them through the emotional back and forth struggle of combat. The crowd popped like crazy through out this match because of the emotional changing of the tide of the match not because guys did specific moves. The People's Elbow spot with Ric Flair and The Rock should be studied by everyone in the business today so they can learn how do to this business right. The finish was another "the business the way it's supposed to be" moment. The veteran put over the future starā€¦ CLEAN, and they both sold it like it was significant and it meant something. Foley didn't shrug it off smiling, the announcers didn't send it to the back, and Orton fell to his knees with excitement and relief that he had managed to defeat such an iconic figure. This match and finish needs to be watched, studied, and explained to everyone "writing" wrestling today, because this is what pro-wrestling is all about.
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Couldn't agree with him more. Especially on the bold part. That was such a brilliant exchange with nothing more than taunts and an elbow. Nothing better than Rock and Flair in that aspect. Rock had this unique, rare ability to make any crowd 100% invested in every move he did. He worked the crowd into his matches like nobody else with everything he performed. That was the definition of fun and entertainment, what this business is all about. One of the best workers of all time. But this is a lost art today, you don't have anybody that can put on a performance and really a legit show with his match. It's all going out there, doing the holds, doing the moves, finish segment and that's it, TVs and PPVs.

On another note, I really wanted to see Rock selling an RKO, he sold two great Batista Bombs(RAW and WM)but I would have loved to see him bump with that RKO like only he can.

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Old 10-25-2012, 01:50 PM   #7778 (permalink)
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WWE Summerslam 2001

Quick Thoughts: Despite my dislike of this angle this was a damn good show. Consistency up and down the card with 3 great matches to boot; that cage match irks me every time I see it though.


Lance Storm vs. Edge- ****
Spike Dudley & APA vs. Test & Dudley Boyz- **
X-Pac vs. Tajiri- **1/2
Chris Jericho vs. Rhyno- ***
Jeff Hardy vs. Rob Van Dam (Ladder Match)- ****
Undertaker & Kane vs. DDP & Kanyon (Cage Match)-
Steve Austin vs. Kurt Angle- ****
The Rock vs. Booker T- ***1/2
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WWE Unforgiven 2001

Quick Thoughts: A pretty meh show, nothing really stood out other than Jericho/RVD and the main event was decent, Edge & Christian was passable, the opener was fun, lots of filler and of course BOD/Kronik... yeah.


Dudley Boyz vs. Hardy Boyz vs. Storm & Helms vs. Big Show & Spike- **3/4
Raven vs. Saturn- *
Edge vs. Christian- **
Undertaker & Kane vs. Kronik-
Rob Van Dam vs. Chris Jericho- ****
The Rock vs. Booker T & Shane O'Mac- **
Tajiri vs. Rhyno- *
Steve Austin vs. Kurt Angle- ***
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WWE No Mercy 2001

Quick Thoughts: I remember ratings and buyrates plummeting during this time so they did the whole "New WWF" deal... mmhmm. Decent show nothing bad per se; some solid matches, fun lingerie match, decent ladder match (how many did they have that year damn), an epic match with Rock/Y2J and a good main event. I will say that they buried the absolute fuck out of Booker.


Hardy Boyz vs. Lance Storm & Hurricane- **1/2
Kane vs. Test- **
Stacy Keibler vs. Torrie Wilson (Lingerie Match)- N/A
Edge vs. Christian (Ladder Match)- ***1/2
Dudley Boyz vs. Big Show & Tajiri- **1/4
Undertaker vs. Booker T- *
The Rock vs. Chris Jericho- ****1/4+
Steve Austin vs. Kurt Angle vs. Rob Van Dam- ***
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WWE Survivor Series 2001

Quick Thoughts: Meh show, saddled with the pointless "you'll be fired unless you got a title" stip because well, no one got fired. A couple of good matches, the finish to Hardys/Dudleys irked me like really Jeff? The SS tag match was nice really picked up towards the end.


Christian vs. Al Snow- **
William Regal vs. Tajiri- *
Edge vs. Test- **1/2
Hardy Boyz vs. Dudley Boyz (Steel Cage)- ***
Immunity Battle Royal- **
Trish vs. Lita vs. Jazz vs. Jacqueline vs. Ivory vs. Molly- *1/2
Team WWF vs. Team Alliance (Survivor Series Elimination Match)- ***1/2
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WWE Vengeance 2001

Quick Thoughts: Passable, a bunch of decent matches some forgettable matches and another great showcase between Rock & Jericho. WWF tried hard to hit the reset button after SS, but it just wasn't working.


Christian & Test vs. Scotty 2 Hotty & Albert- *3/4
Edge vs. William Regal- **
Matt Hardy vs. Jeff Hardy- **
Dudley Boyz vs. Big Show & Kane- **
Undertaker vs. Rob Van Dam (Hardcore Match)- **3/4
Trish Stratus vs. Jacqueline- *
Steve Austin vs. Kurt Angle- **
The Rock vs. Chris Jericho- ****
Steve Austin vs. Chris Jericho- **
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HHH is a proper jobber at WM.
Trips knows what's up. Bury all year and then do the job at the grandest stage to make a star. Take notes Y2J lol.

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Only other things you need to watch from WM XX are Jericho/Christian (****1/2 from me, the match that made me a Christian fan) and Undertaker/Kane (Only **1/2 or something, but DAMN at Undertaker's return). Nowt else on the show is that good imo. Angle/Eddie was pretty bad (not many people agree with me though), Lesnar/Goldberg was hilariously bad, Rock & Sock Vs Evolution was shitty (again, not many people agree with me. Rock has never been good and he was rusty as shit. Foley was in terrible shape. Flair, despite having some great performances in 03+ in WWE just wasn't "on" here. Batista was still green as shit. Orton was the best guy in the match).
I'm not that fond of Jericho/Christian tbh. Definitely wouldn't have it any higher than 4*. Taker's entrance alone is ***** lol. Awesome, awesome spectacle. Lesnar/Goldberg is GOAT. It's worth the watch for how fucked up it is, ha. Rock&Sock/Evolution is a fun match but nowhere near 4*. I have Eddie/Angle on my list for later though so I'll hold my judgment on that one. The triple threat is just a beautiful match though. It's a shame it's permanently tarnished for obvious reasons.

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But this is a lost art today, you don't have anybody that can put on a performance and really a legit show with his match. It's all going out there, doing the holds, doing the moves, finish segment and that's it, TVs and PPVs.
You want to see a newer guy put on a show/performance with his match go watch Damien Sandow vs. some jobber from last week's NXT. Awesome stuff from Sandow in that one. The crowd are eating him up and he's playing right back with them. I've liked Sandow for a while now but when I watched this match this morning I officially became a fan. He's great and a true prospect for the future if you ask me.
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You want to see a newer guy put on a show/performance with his match go watch Damien Sandow vs. some jobber from last week's NXT. Awesome stuff from Sandow in that one. The crowd are eating him up and he's playing right back with them. I've liked Sandow for a while now but when I watched this match this morning I officially became a fan. He's great and a true prospect for the future if you ask me.
Well, it has Sandow in it, so video pretty please (if you can provide it).
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