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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Had HBK used the crossface before that match? Pretty cool way for him to win the WHC like that .

Seriously though, was awesome to see HHH tap the fuck out after his reign of terror from mid 02-04.
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Is it just me or is the Big Show - John Cena match at No Way Out underrated? It was booked very well because we didn't get the typical super cena comeback instead, Cena needed help to win. In fact, Big Show actually knocked out Cena clean and would have won the match if it weren't for interferences. The storyline was bad but the match was very well booked IMO.
I know I'm in the minority but I really enjoyed this match too. Things started off slow but it established Show as a monster and Cena as the underdog. It's your typical formulaic Cena performance spiced up with some sweet bumping from both men. This really gets good around the time the interference happens. Overbooked fun that will leave you wondering what will happen next. ★★★½
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The reign of terror made the tap out that much sweeter. Same for Batista finally pinning him the next year. I'm going to watch some more of Mania XX when I get back from work. I'm already going to be late for talking about this though lol. See ya.
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

HHH is a proper jobber at WM.
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Only other things you need to watch from WM XX are Jericho/Christian (****1/2 from me, the match that made me a Christian fan) and Undertaker/Kane (Only **1/2 or something, but DAMN at Undertaker's return). Nowt else on the show is that good imo. Angle/Eddie was pretty bad (not many people agree with me though), Lesnar/Goldberg was hilariously bad, Rock & Sock Vs Evolution was shitty (again, not many people agree with me. Rock has never been good and he was rusty as shit. Foley was in terrible shape. Flair, despite having some great performances in 03+ in WWE just wasn't "on" here. Batista was still green as shit. Orton was the best guy in the match).
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HHH is a proper jobber at WM.
What are you talking about, he done BERRIED the Crossface as a finisher. Didn't tap out for almost two full minutes. Also he only lost so he could win it back after Benoit dropped the title to jobber-Orton. :hhh



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Rock/Sock/Evolution WM20 - ****. Rock was great as usual, came back like he never left with a dominating performance. The Rock/Flair exchanges were tremendous. Pure entertainment and solidified the mistake of not doing Rock/Flair 1-1 even more(With Foley/Orton also 1-1). Foley was in better shape here than he was at WM16. Orton and Batista did a very good job with the lack of experience on a big stage.

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What are you talking about, he done BERRIED the Crossface as a finisher. Didn't tap out for almost two full minutes. Also he only lost so he could win it back after Benoit dropped the title to jobber-Orton. :hhh
I think you mean waited 3 minutes just to cover a hot babyface Booker T after ONE Pedigree, in the process makes him look like such a beast that you would think he could squash 80s Hogan.

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The Rock N Sock match at WM 20 is brilliant.

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Man, there are a ton of matches I'd point to as necessary to be studied so people can understand how to work a character/gimmick or pull a crowd into a match, but that tag really isn't close to what I'd cite as mandatory viewing. There was a big buzz since it was Rock's first match back in just under a year, Foley/Orton had been building for 4 months and between Flair, Foley and Rock you had three guys the crowd were just bound to eat up. Its a case of performers being charismatic enough to get away with a bare essentials match, but people like Jerry Lawler, Bill Dundee, Terry Funk and Arn Anderson are charismatic enough to excite a crowd without having to kill themselves in the ring, yet they also managed to create far better matches on top of their performances. Christian/Jericho and the main event are the two best matches from Wrestlemania 20, everything else is skippable although the tag is entertaining enough to serve a small purpose...but excellent? Not a chance.
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Documentary looks interesting. I just wish they could get new interviews with Hogan and Bischoff. Too bad they are working with TNA right now. Same with Sting. It would also have been nice to hear from Scott on this doc too. Tony S. was there from beginning to end too covering the events on commentary.


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