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Old 10-24-2012, 06:05 PM   #7741 (permalink)
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Pondered that. Also the scenario where HHH finally convinced Vince to let Ace lose his importance backstage, and on screen, so NWO was the result of the politics and ended the Ace/Show association right there.

Either or I'd imagine. Which is awful any way you slice it. We all know why. I'll beat the dead horse like everyone else online with the "Cena/Ace would have been tolerable enough as long as it didn't go after Punk/Danielson" stuff. Although "tolerable enough" really means it's utter crap, but at least it didn't main event.
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Old 10-24-2012, 06:10 PM   #7742 (permalink)
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Undertaker's performance at WrestleMania 26 is one of the greatest I've ever seen. It still fascinates me how they came with an injury angle to start the most critical match of their careers in the main event of WrestleMania. It was absolutely brilliant.
What fascinates me more is how genius the setup was. It wasn't a blatantly obvious slip by Taker which would have made it hard to buy as legit, the only thing making anyone question whether it was an angle or real was the fact that by and large wrestling always creates that never-ending suspicion of what is real and what isn't.

To me there was just this perfect balance between work and shoot, on the one hand its the main event of Wrestlemania which the entire show has been built around, so the suspicion its a work was always prevelant. However it was probably the most convincing they could have made it, given Taker was running through a rudementary sequence of moves before coming down 'awkwardly' off of the top rope. The way he sort of winced in pain upon impact but still continued on offence only added to the suspicion that it might have been an unplanned spot.

Of course the way they then worked it into a callback from the year before with HBK faking Taker out with a superkick attempt in order to force him to show his injury was brilliant. HBK trying the same trick the year before and therefore playing in Michaels' mind was again just majestic storytelling.
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Old 10-24-2012, 06:33 PM   #7743 (permalink)
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WWE Armageddon 2000

Quick Thoughts: This was a decent show, nothing bad it was pretty much consistent for the most part. The main event was fun for the spectacle but largely forgettable. You couldn't have paid me enough to do that Rikishi spot and he's 400 pounds which makes it worse; weird enough Kurt wounded up looking the weakest in this match and he was not only the champ, but retained as well.


The Radicalz & Terri vs. Hardy Boyz & Lita (Intergender Elimination Match)- **
William Regal vs. Hardcore Holly- **1/2
Chyna vs. Val Venis- *1/4
Chris Jericho vs. Kane (Last Man Standing Match)- **1/2
Right to Censor vs. Edge & Christian vs. Dudley Boyz vs. Kwik N' Dogg- **3/4
Billy Gunn vs. Chris Benoit- **
Ivory vs. Trish Stratus vs. Molly Holly- *
Angle vs. Rock vs. Austin vs. HHH vs. Taker vs. Rikishi (Hell in a Cell Match)- ***1/2
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:29 PM   #7744 (permalink)
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Has there ever been a forum more full of incoherent, nonsensical ramblings than the GOAT thread ? I swear to god, reading some of the bitch fights in there makes me kind of ashamed to be a wrestling fan at times. It has basically degenerated into another merch/ratings/Rock vs Austin thread, and it has really pissed me off. If I don't stop reading it, I'm just going to lose my mind and stab some innocent bystander

I posted a long piece about Flair being the greatest of all time based off of pure wrestling ability, the quality of matches he's had over the years, his charisma/mic skills, etc, and it just got completely IGNORED by a bunch of blind Rock/Austin fans who can't appreciate what it takes to be the rightful greatest of all time.

ANYWHOWAYS. Can somebody tell me what MANIACS voted for HBK-Bret WM XII to be on the top 100 WWF/WWE matches ever ? It's almost as bad (well, not really , not really close at all ) as voting for Hogan-Andre or something. I can name about 1000 WWF/WWE matches more deserving of being on the list than that one. Starting the rewatching and the reranking today and rest assured, I can't think of a scenario where that's any higher than number 100 .
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:49 PM   #7745 (permalink)
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I haven't even bothered with that thread simply by the name. It's just asking for trouble.

As for the Ironman match from WrestleMania 12...who the hell knows. WWE constantly puts it over as a "legendary" match only because Hart/Michaels worked 61 minutes. It's the definintion of a boring, lazy match. Lazy might be an ironic word to use, but it fits so well. Both have had WAY better. At a WrestleMania too. Always. always, always lolz hard whenever employees put that match over as one of the best they've ever seen. I own a Backlund/Hogan match that rapes the hell out of that dull affair (Hogan's unreleased collector's edition set) yet a good portion of the "WWE Universe" would still select Hart/Michaels simply because it's more mainstream.

It's like how Hogan/Sting from Starrcade '97 made the Starrcade set. Simply due to the significant of the bout at the time. Sadly, the reflection of how the match turns out means nothing when voting.

I'll praise and slam a Hogan match all in the same post to get a point across. How do you like that? Weird, wild stuff.
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I remember being SO fucking pumped for that DVD. I used to mark out hard-fucking-core for Hogan and thought he was the greatest ever.... Until I started, you know, THINKING. Got it for Christmas and loved the matches vs Rude and Savage. Might rewatch them sometime to see what's up with those matches nowadays.

I love this "re-ranking the top 100" project , as it allows me to watch basically the best WWF/WWE matches that I've never seen. I have 26 of them not ranked on record, so basically I want to know... Which out of these 3 should I watch tonight ?

Finlay-Benoit 5/5/06
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It's a fun set. I mean you either can still enjoy Hogan matches or you can't, you know? Plus you get gems on there like match vs Backlund and other fun ones vs Rude(like you mentioned) & Haku, his 2002 run, etc.

FUCK. Man, that's a hard list to pick. I almost say you should watch all 3, haha. Since it's the least vivid in my mind go with Benoit/Regal from Velocity. See how it compares to their match at No Mercy 2006.
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i just watched the punk/cena money in the bank wwe title match from last year off punk's dvd. the match held up to memory for sure, but one thing i did notice that somehow escaped me at the time: the horrible job cole, king, and booker t did from the announce table. holy christ were they bad. incessant cena ass kissing the entire match and giving credit to cena for shit he wasn't even doing. punk hit cena with the gts in the belly near the ropes and cena fell through the ropes to the floor. king and booker t take turns giving cena credit for leaving the ring so he can't get pinned. cole was making stupid mistakes like he's blind and/or retarded. del rio came into the ring at the end to cash in money in the bank and punk did his trademark kick to the back of his head to knock him out. cole called it "a big right hand from punk" or words to that effect.

how long has cole been the #1 play by play guy now and he's calling a kick a punch during the best match of the year? he made multiple mistakes in between all the cena ass kissing. king should never come back cuz he sucks ass on commentary and booker t should never be on commentary during important matches. he can be fun on smackdown, but sucks when it's a serious big match. plus he comes across as really dumb. he's like a toy doll that has a few catchphrases it says when you press it's belly. otherwise, he's completely useless.

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Old 10-24-2012, 11:43 PM   #7749 (permalink)
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Has there ever been a forum more full of incoherent, nonsensical ramblings than the GOAT thread ? I swear to god, reading some of the bitch fights in there makes me kind of ashamed to be a wrestling fan at times. It has basically degenerated into another merch/ratings/Rock vs Austin thread, and it has really pissed me off. If I don't stop reading it, I'm just going to lose my mind and stab some innocent bystander
They're mostly idiots, yeah. BC Hunk is the worst poster on the forum. I want a pinned Rock v Austin thread so that fucking garbage can be kept in one place. Hell, create a new forum and dump all of those fools over there. I've put most of them on my ignore list by this point so I open up a page and see like two replies. I really have no problem with people comparing ratings and merchandise and drawing figures but the posts are just....yuck.

The Michaels/Hart Iron Man is a good match, but it does get too much support by some people. There are others that I don't think give it enough credit, though. Survivor Series 92 is pretty boring; I liked Bret in it but Shawn wasn't a good singles wrestler until like 94. IDR SSeries 97, but no Michaels/Bret really does THAT for me (you know....THAT). I think Michaels had better chemistry with Owen than with Bret.
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Hey, I just watched that PPV. It is full on garbage until the Rumble match. Seems like a decent segway into...


Royal Rumble 2004


1) World Tag Team Championship - Tables Match:
Ric Flair & Batista(c) vs Dudley Boys ~ DUD


2) WWE Cruiserweight Championship:
Rey Mysterio(c) vs Jamie Noble ~ *


3) Eddie Guerrero vs Chavo Guerrero Jr. ~ DUD


4) WWE Championship:
Brock Lesnar(c) vs Bob Holly ~ DUD


5) World Heavyweight Championship - Last Man Standing Match:
Triple H(c) vs Shawn Michaels ~ ***


6) Royal Rumble Match:
Chris Benoit vs Randy Orton vs Mark Henry vs Yoshihiro Tajiri vs Bradshaw vs Rhyno vs Matt Hardy vs Scott Steiner vs Matt Morgan vs The Hurricane vs Booker T vs Kane vs Spike Dudley vs Rikishi vs Rene Dupree vs A-Train vs Shelton Benjamin vs Ernest Miller vs Kurt Angle vs Rico Constantino vs Mick Foley vs Christian vs Nunzio vs Big Show vs Chris Jericho vs Charlie Haas vs Billy Gunn vs John Cena vs Rob Van Dam vs Bill Goldberg ~ ***3/4



While the Rumble match sort of saved the show...I hope you didn't spend too much on this.

£2 and prob only going to watch the LMS en Rumble itself so isn't to bad of a price :P Thanks for the ratings
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